On this episode of Alec Mapa: Hot Mess with Matthew Dempsey Psychotherapist, the hosts welcome comedian and actress from “Two Dope Queens” and writer on “Broad City” Naomi Ekperigin. The three talk about self-indulgence versus self-care and share experiences from their own lives when they tipped one way or the other. They chat about dealing with your inner critic, overcoming self-loathing, seeking comfort during challenging times, the stigma of talking about mental health in comedy, and how in these difficult times, ok is the new thriving.

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