#878. Clea Shearer, co-founder of The Home Edit and breast cancer survivor, is back on the podcast for a deeply personal conversation you won’t forget. She opens up about the moments that tested her strength — including a recent implant scare that felt like starting over — and the realities of treatment, recovery, and the anxiety that comes after.

Clea shares how she navigated these challenges while raising her kids, how she found purpose in her journey, and the lessons she’s learned about listening to your body, advocating for yourself, and embracing life’s most difficult moments.

Her new book, Cancer Is Complicated: And Other Unexpected Lessons I’ve Learned, is out today. Listen to this episode now to feel inspired — whether you’ve faced cancer or are just looking for a story of courage, hope, and perseverance, Clea’s journey will remind you to embrace life’s challenges and find meaning in the moments that matter most.

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• 8:06 – Chemo vs. radiation: the difference and what they do to your body.
• 16:10 – How cancer changed the way Clea sees herself.
• 28:30 – High-functioning women miss the signs: Clea’s advice to slow down!
• 40:28 – The heartbreaking and powerful way Clea told her kids about her cancer.

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#877. She was Carmella for over a decade — the moon-walking, trash-talking Princess of Staten Island — but now Leah Van Dale is finally ready to share who she really is. From NFL cheerleader to history-making WWE Superstar, Leah takes Kaitlyn through her unbelievable journey — including the shocking moment she was released during maternity leave. She opens up about identity shifts, the guilt of missing her “old life,” and how she’s learning to separate herself from the character fans knew for 11 years.

Leah gets raw about postpartum truths no one talks about — from postpartum rage to living with Drop Foot — and how those struggles inspired her to launch Snatch, a new community for moms. Plus, she shares what it’s really like being a stepmom in a blended family, why this pregnancy has been even harder than the first, and the surprising dream she’s still chasing outside the ring. Tune in NOW! 

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• (3:10) Behind the scenes of being a professional cheerleader and the insane weigh-ins.
• (15:30) WWE shocker: Leah was let go during maternity leave and how she handled it.
• (23:40 The unexpected birth injury that changed her postpartum journey.
• (25:45) Launching Snatch: why Leah created a community for moms and what’s next for the brand
• (41:40) Leah’s dream beyond wrestling: Broadway!!!

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#876. Sandy Gallagher is here spilling everything from behind the scenes of Perfect Match and The Ultimatum! From her very first reality show casting to the chaos of the infamous kissing challenge, she gets real about what went down, her storyline with Louie, and the wild moments the cameras didn’t capture. She also shares her take on Louie spoiling the season by dating Huda, navigating love and jealousy on set, and the surprises of watching herself on screen.

Beyond the drama, Sandy opens up about life after reality TV—how Perfect Match reshaped her approach to dating, the new relationship she’s in, and why she’ll never date someone younger again. Tune in for the ultimate girl yap session you won’t want to miss! 

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EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS: 

• (17:50) – The Kissing Challenge: Who did Sandy really think she was kissing, her rankings, and the chaos that went down.
• (25:00) – Louie Spoils the Season: Sandy reacts to Louie dating Huda and the drama it stirred among the cast.
• (30:25) – Quitting Her Job on a Whim: The day before The Ultimatum called, Sandy walked away from her corporate life.
• (43:09) – Life After Reality TV: Sandy opens up about her new relationship and navigating love post-show.
• (48:00) – Big Cast Fight: The all-cast mixer showdown that never made it to the show.

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#875. Kaitlyn sits down with Rachael Staudt from Hulu’s new show Are You My First? for her very first interview since the season wrapped — and with no reunion yet, this is the conversation fans have been waiting for!!

From never-before-heard behind-the-scenes moments to the burning questions the internet can’t stop asking — what really happened after filming? Where do things stand with Michael? Who’s still close, who’s not, and what shocked Rachael the most when the cameras stopped rolling?

Plus, Kaitlyn dives into Rachael’s personal journey with vaginismus and the exciting new chapter she’s writing… literally.

If the finale left you with questions, you’ll definitely want to tune in now!

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• 4:53 – How Rachael got cast on Are You My First?
• 16:46 – Where things stand today with Michael.
• 50:45 – Rachael opens up about her journey with vaginismus.

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#874. Love isn’t about finding “the one”… it’s about finding the person who makes you more you. Mindfulness expert, author, and podcast host Case Kenny joins Kaitlyn to unpack how to approach dating and relationships with confidence, optimism, and presence.

From ghosting and scarcity mindsets to reigniting the spark after years together, Case shares practical ways to get out of autopilot and back into curiosity, playfulness, and noticing in your relationship. He explains why the promises you keep to yourself matter most, how to spot red flags early, and what it really means to “settle up” instead of settling down.

If you’ve ever wondered how to attract empowering love, how to know if it’s the right partner, or how to break free from feeling stuck — this episode will change the way you think about love.

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EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS: 

• (7:44) - Why Case Kenny HATES the phrase “settling down” (and what you should do instead)
• (11:30) - The #1 toxic dating mindset keeping you stuck in the wrong relationships
• (23:40) -  Can you really avoid ghosters?
• (26:50) - The surprising science behind what actually keeps long-term love alive (hint: it’s not sex or money).
• (44:20) - Case’s powerful definition of a soulmate (and why you may have more than one).

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#873. Kaitlyn sits down with history-making Sports Illustrated cover star Lauren Chan — the first out lesbian and first Chinese person to land the SI Swimsuit cover.

Lauren gets real about discovering her sexuality while married to a man, turning heartbreak into pride, and why representation is the driving force behind everything she does. From “gay audacity” to being trolled by Ben Shapiro, to falling in love on set with her now-partner, Lauren doesn’t hold back.

She spills about her time on Canada’s Drag Race and The Traitors Canada, admits she’s gunning for a spot on Real Housewives, and reveals her dream of hosting a queer dating show.

It’s raw, inspiring, and laugh-out-loud — and by the end, you’ll see why Lauren Chan is a voice we all need right now.

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EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS: 

• (4:20) — How She Made History: From fashion editor to SI’s first lesbian cover star.
• (10:45) — Coming Out Shock: Realizing she was gay while married to a man.
• (24:30) — Reality TV Secrets: Behind the scenes The Traitors Canada + her dream queer dating show.
• (32:45) — Ben Shapiro Called Her Ugly?! Lauren breaks beauty standards and shuts down critics.

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#872. From flying fighter jets to inspiring audiences worldwide, Michelle “MACE” Curran’s story soars above and beyond. Once a shy small-town kid battling social anxiety, she went on to become the Lead Solo Pilot for the U.S. Air Force Thunderbirds—one of the most elite positions in aviation.

In this episode, Mace shares what it really takes to become a fighter pilot, the near-catastrophic flight that earned her the call sign “Mace,” and the reality of often being the only woman in the room. She and Kaitlyn dive into her new book The Flipside: How to Invert Your Perspective and Turn Fear into Your Superpower, unpacking the tools she uses to turn fear into confidence and why boldness is built—not born.

From high-G turns in the cockpit to captivating keynote stages, Mace proves that bravery isn’t about being fearless—it’s about showing up anyway.

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• (4:03)– The Moment She Knew She Wanted to Fly Fighter Jets
• (24:00) – The Story Behind the Call Sign “Mace”
• (29:30) – Becoming Only The 2nd Woman as Lead Solo Pilot
• (51:35) – How Mace Met Her Husband on Bumble
• (58:25) – Turning Fear Into a Superpower

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#871. Did you know Colton Underwood and Kaitlyn are cohosting a brand-new Hulu dating show, Are You My First? Now that the season is out, they can finally spill all the tea — and this is the convo Colton was most nervous for… because when they sit down together, things get way too comfortable ;)

We cover it all — their totally different journeys with love and sex, how Colton finally lost his virginity, and the guilt, confusion, and shame he carried while trying to convince himself he was straight. He opens up about faith, coming out, and what life looks like now — married, starting a family, and finally living as his best self.

But don’t worry, it’s not all serious! They spill behind-the-scenes tea from filming on a tropical island (think lightning strikes & jellyfish attacks), dish on cast secrets, and even debate who was really a virgin. Plus — reunion plans? A lie detector for season 2? 

Hit play for laughs, honesty, and stories you won’t hear anywhere else.

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• (10:08) – Colton gets real about losing his virginity, the guilt, the shame, and the wild mental gymnastics he did trying to convince himself he was straight.
• (29:07) – Who from Are You My First? could survive Bachelor in Paradise.
• (32:50) – Tropics gone wild: lightning strikes, storms, and a jellyfish coming straight for Kaitlyn.
• (39:30) –Colton shares what it’s like now — married, building a family, and finally living as his authentic self.

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#870. This week, Kaitlyn is joined by The McBee Dynasty’s Steven McBee Jr. — the cowboy turned reality TV star whose family drama is giving Yellowstone a run for its money. From his days on Joe Millionaire to running a 40,000-acre farm to that infamous butt shower scene, Steven’s spilling everything we’ve been dying to know.

He’s dishing on how his family landed a Bravo show, where things really stand with Calah, the surprising type of women he can’t resist, and why his first dates literally cost thousands. We’re also getting personal: his dad’s absence this season, his mom stepping into the spotlight, and if we’ll ever see him handing out roses on The Bachelor.

And of course — we wrap it up with a juicy confession that involves a girl, a freezing Missouri night, and a gas station fail. Buckle up, because this convo is equal parts cowboy, chaos, and confessions!

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EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS: 

• (2:13) – How the McBee Dynasty Became Reality Tv!
• (7:30) – Steven answers the #1 fan question about his on-again, off-again girlfriend.
• (8:52) – Why His First Dates Cost Thousands of Dollars!
• (22:49) – Where’s Steven’s Dad This Season? Steven opens up about his father’s absence.
• (39:40) – Steven shares an epic confession that involves a girl he was in love with and a gas station disaster.

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#869. For years, Amanda Knox’s name was defined by headlines, speculation, and a story that wasn’t hers to tell. Now, with her new Hulu series The Twisted Tale of Amanda Knox, she’s finally reclaiming her narrative — and she joins Kaitlyn for one of the most powerful, emotional conversations ever on Off the Vine.

Amanda sets the record straight about those infamous “strange behavior” moments, the coerced false confession, and what it was like to spend nearly her entire twenties under the shadow of prison and retrials. She opens up about survivor’s guilt, the toll on her family, and how becoming a mother reshaped the way she views it all.

She also shares what it was like collaborating with Monica Lewinsky and Grace Van Patten, why the world was so quick to villainize her, and the memory of Meredith Kercher she wants the world to remember beyond the news coverage.

Raw, unfiltered, and deeply human — this is Amanda Knox like you’ve never heard her before!

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EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS: 

• (8:20) – Survivor’s guilt: Amanda opens up about carrying the weight of being the one who lived.
• (18:13) – Family impact: Why Amanda believes her mom suffered more than she did.
• (31:59) – Behind the series: Working with Monica Lewinsky and Grace Van Patten on her new Hulu show.
• (52:37) – Strange behavior: Amanda sets the record straight on the infamous media narrative.
• (1:00:13) – Remembering Meredith: Amanda honors her roommate’s life and the traits she wants the world to remember.

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