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#991. After nearly three years of fighting to prove the truth, Clayton Echard watched Laura Owens stand in a courtroom and plead guilty to four felonies. Tomorrow, she’ll learn her sentence.
It all started in 2023, when Laura claimed she was pregnant with Clayton’s twins — a claim Clayton denied from the beginning and one that would eventually lead to years of court battles and a criminal investigation.
Now, Clayton is telling us what it was actually like to hear her say “guilty,” why the moment he waited years for left him feeling strangely numb, and why he believes she should serve prison time. He opens up about what this case has cost him financially and professionally, whether an apology would mean anything now, and the question that still remains: WHY did this happen?
Plus, what happens when the fight that consumed years of your life is suddenly ending — and, on a much lighter note, how Clayton somehow became the king of dancing Cameos and why we may need to get him on Dancing With the Stars.
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#990. The group chat is DEAD, the friendships are complicated, and Nicole Williams English is here to tell us what REALLY happened behind the scenes of Hulu’s The Girls: A Khloé Kardashian Project!
Nicole joins Kaitlyn to spill on the Vegas drama, the friendships that still haven't recovered, and why hours of confessionals never made it to air. She also sets the record straight on the rumors surrounding her marriage to Larry, gets candid about their post-baby dry spell, and shares what it was like finally landing the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit cover after 20 years of chasing that dream.
Plus, could season two bring an entirely different group of girls? Nicole has some thoughts. Tune in!
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#989. Serena Kerrigan went on 50 first dates on Instagram Live, built an entire career out of her dating life, and somehow still has some WILD stories to tell. The self-proclaimed Queen of Confidence joins Kaitlyn to question whether modern dating advice has completely lost the plot, why butterflies might actually be a red flag, and why she believes holding a literal funeral after a breakup can help you finally move on.
From getting ghosted to accidentally locking herself naked outside a guy’s apartment, Serena has been through it all. And now that she's found love, is she actually following her own advice?
Her new book, Let's Fcking Date, is out now!
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#988. From sleeping in her car to selling over 30 million albums, Jewel has lived a life that sounds almost too unbelievable to be true. The Grammy-nominated singer-songwriter joins Kaitlyn for an unforgettable conversation about the childhood that shaped her, the dark side of fame, and the betrayals that forced her to question everything she thought she knew.
Jewel opens up about growing up in Alaska, performing in biker bars as a child, turning down a million-dollar record deal, and why she walked away from fame at the height of her career. Plus, the unexpected stories behind her encounters with Bob Dylan, Neil Young, and Ringo Starr, the heartbreaking truth about her relationship with her mother, and the lessons she's learned about love, trust, and knowing when to walk away.
Now, Jewel is using those experiences to help others through her Inspiring Children Foundation and the Not Alone Challenge. From unimaginable setbacks to finding genuine happiness, this is a side of Jewel you haven't heard before.
PLUS: Kaitlyn and Jewel are giving away TWO Purple Turtles! Head to Instagram and enter for a chance to win!
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#987. REPEAT OUR GREATEST HIT EPISODES:
With Verity officially hitting the big screen, we’re going back into the OTV vault for Kaitlyn’s conversation with the woman who started it all: #1 New York Times bestselling author Colleen Hoover!
Long before her books became global phenomenons and Verity made its way to Hollywood, Colleen joined Kaitlyn to talk about the surprisingly normal — and very chaotic — road that led her to becoming one of the biggest authors in the world. It all started with writing her first book simply “for fun,” and somehow turned into a career she admits still gives her a serious case of impostor syndrome.
Colleen opens up about why she thrives in chaos, her unconventional writing process, why she doesn’t believe in writer’s block, and where some of her most memorable characters actually come from. And yes, that includes the confession that one of them was inspired by someone from Bachelor Nation she fell for while watching Bachelor in Paradise.
Whether you’ve been a CoHo reader for years or just discovered Verity through the movie, this conversation hits a little differently now!
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#986. Kaitlyn is catching up with two people she absolutely adores, Joe Amabile and Serena Pitt. After one of the most unexpected years of their lives, Joe opens up about discovering his brain tumor, undergoing surgery, and what recovery has really looked like — physically, mentally, and emotionally. Serena shares what it was like to be by his side through it all, including the moments she had to step away and cry on her own.
They also talk about how the experience has changed Joe’s outlook on life, his plans to run the NYC Marathon, and the way they’ve leaned on each other through the hardest moments. Of course, it wouldn’t be a catch-up with these three without some laughs along the way. They get into Dancing with the Stars, married life, their decision not to get a prenup, and finally having the freedom to show more of themselves on their podcast, Not Married To This.
It’s an honest, funny, and really personal conversation about love, health, marriage, and what happens when life changes overnight.
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#985. What happens when the Disney girl who seemingly had it all admits her life was actually a trainwreck?
Christy Carlson Romano joins Kaitlyn to talk about what was really happening behind the scenes of Even Stevens, Kim Possible, and Cadet Kelly. From blowing her Disney money on psychics (including a $20,000 crystal she never received!) to her complicated relationship with Shia LaBeouf, Christy is looking back on her Disney days with a whole new perspective.
She opens up about watching her former costars become Hollywood superstars, her thoughts on Hilary Duff's comeback, and why growing up famous wasn't nearly as glamorous as it looked. Plus, the two get into people-pleasing, the pressure to have it all together, and why revisiting childhood fame isn't always as fun as the nostalgia makes it seem.
Christy's new memoir, Once Upon a Trainwreck: The Fall and Rise of a Child Star, is out October 6!
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#984. Ruby Rose has spent the last several years largely out of the spotlight. Now, she’s ready to talk, and she chose Off the Vine for her first-ever podcast interview.
In a rare and deeply personal conversation, Ruby opens up to Kaitlyn about the life people didn’t see behind the fame, including a childhood that shaped her in ways she’s still unpacking today and the surprising reason acting was never actually part of her plan. She looks back at risking nearly everything to create Break Free, the viral film that ultimately led to Orange Is the New Black, and what it was really like to become one of the most recognizable faces in the world almost overnight.
But at the height of it all, something changed. Ruby gets candid about the experiences that made her step away from Hollywood, what that time away helped her realize about herself, and why Special Forces: World’s Toughest Test became the unexpected project that brought her back in front of the camera, this time with no character to hide behind.
It’s Ruby Rose in a way you haven’t heard her before: funny, incredibly open, and ready to tell her story on her own terms.
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#983. Olivia Attwood has made an entire career out of saying the things everyone else is thinking — and Kaitlyn may have found her new British girl crush.
Nearly a decade after Love Island UK, Olivia has gone from giving us “I’m sat” and “dick sand” to becoming one of the UK’s biggest TV personalities… without sanding down any of the personality that got her there in the first place. She and Kaitlyn get into what it actually takes to turn reality TV fame into a real career, the VERY unexpected things Olivia has learned from going inside the worlds of adult entertainment and plastic surgery, and whether bad boyfriends can actually become good ones.
That last one hits a little differently after the year Olivia has had. She gets candid about knowing when it’s finally time to leave, what people didn’t see behind her very public breakup, and falling in love again when the internet had plenty of opinions about her timeline.
And then Kaitlyn gives the professional bad-boyfriend expert a few men of her own to judge in Crack On or Get Mugged Off. Apparently, even the bad-boyfriend expert has a few controversial takes.
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#982. Ariana Biermann is on the vine, and she’s finally telling her side of what really went down on Next Gen NYC. After ending the relationship that had defined most of her adult life, Ariana thought she was ready for a fresh start — until one guy felt a little too real, another felt dangerously familiar, and suddenly she found herself in a situation she never saw coming.
Ariana opens up about falling hard for Liam, why him telling her he loved her sent her into a full “crash out,” and the decision she made with Charlie that changed everything. She reveals who actually told Liam about the kiss, what happened after he found out, and why she believes she may have sabotaged something that could have been really good. Plus, she gets into the friendships that shifted behind the scenes, what viewers didn’t get to see, and a much happier chapter: watching Brielle get ready to walk down the aisle.
Part 1 of the Next Gen NYC reunion left us with questions. Before Part 2 drops tomorrow, Ariana is filling in some of the blanks.
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