Marie gives an update on her dad, and how she's doing overall. Katie and Marie talk about how we survive after great loss, how religion plays a part in the unknown, and the many forms grief takes. Also a little bit about Fortnite, because why not?

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Marie and Katie talk about what their purpose is, how to stay healthy, and the best way to defeat scammers. The return of "But Her Emails Though" brings great new insights into what the Russians are doing with their time.

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Welcome to the Black and White Pilot Podcast, where Katie and Marie discover life might not be black and white, but they are! Katie and Marie discuss the Roe v Wade overturned, life after layoffs, and life's deep troubles and how to get through them. 

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