The biggest challenge in entrepreneurship is that founders of startups with no customers need a way to know if they're about to "make something people want". In this episode, Mike details three experiences that enable him to solve this challenge: (1) measurement systems -- Mike worked for years quantifying consumer products, (2) crossing boundaries -- Mike uses concepts outside conventional entrepreneurship to create Nascent's quantification frameworks and (3) table stakes -- Mike has decades of experience with startups and teaching.
In this episode:
(00:00) "Make something people want" is like saying airplanes just need to "get in the air"
(01:10) For the rest of us, instinct is not enough
(01:39) What Nascent is and why Mike created it
(02:21) Welcome to the Nascent podcast
(02:55) Nascent lets startups with no customers Estimate Revenue Next Year
(03:34) Three reasons Mike is the right person to build Nascent
(05:23) Twenty years in startups; ten in Silicon Valley
(05:54) Create, collaborate, communicate — Mike's three working modes
(07:21) Mike's superpower: explaining things
(08:11) From engineer to regulator — measuring messy, unstructured products
(10:51) From "Your idea sucks." to "Why does my idea suck?!"
(13:23) Discovery interviews need an analysis framework
(14:29) The danger of "you'll know a good startup idea when you see it"
(16:22) Crossing boundaries — the beach, languages
(17:26) From perceiving invisible electrons to invisible People in Pain
(19:41) The Alexa employee anecdote — circuitous career paths and unexpected payoffs
(21:12) CTA: send this episode to a founder who needs it
(22:04) Mailbag: Claudia's outreach
(22:33) Outro
Links and sources:
- Nascent Ep020: The biggest problem in startups remains unsolved. https://www.nascentstartups.com/p/020-the-biggest-problem-in-startups
- Nascent Ep021: No, getting customers is the wrong goal. Instead search for People in Pain. https://www.nascentstartups.com/p/021-no-getting-customers-is-the-wrong
- Nascent Ep022: Yes, search for People in Pain. But they're invisible. https://www.nascentstartups.com/p/022-yes-search-for-people-in-pain
- Y Combinator — the "make something people want" motto https://www.ycombinator.com/
- Paul Graham's "internal compass" quote https://paulgraham.com/before.html
- Steve Blank https://steveblank.com/
- Jerry Engel https://haas.berkeley.edu/faculty/engel-jerome/
- Innovation Corps (I-Corps) at the National Science Foundation (NSF) https://www.nsf.gov/funding/initiatives/i-corps
- The Mom Test by Rob Fitzpatrick https://www.momtestbook.com/
- Helen Rennie — cooking instructor https://www.youtube.com/user/helenrennie
- Richard Feynman — "you are the easiest person to fool" https://calteches.library.caltech.edu/51/2/CargoCult.htm
Nascent frameworks referenced:
- ERNY™ — Estimated Revenue Next Year from the ground up with no customers today, calculated by analyzing recorded discovery interviews.
- People in Pain™ — The first signal a startup might have a customer. Every customer starts as a Person in Pain.
Let's connect:
- Newsletter: https://nascentstartups.com
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- Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nascent-podcast/id1728760830
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- Visuals and frameworks (Miro): https://miro.com/app/board/uXjVGhU2Xoo=/
- Reach Mike at [email protected]