In this episode of 'Horror Joy,' Brian and Jeff sit down with author and playwright Nat Cassidy to explore his career and the intricate relationship between joy and horror.

Cassidy discusses his journey from a macabre child fascinated by the works of Stephen King and Shakespeare to a versatile storyteller working across various mediums, including novels, plays, and audio dramas.

The conversation delves into the philosophical underpinnings of fear and anxiety, the evolution of horror as a genre, and the impact of his latest work, 'When the Wolf Comes Home.'

Cassidy shares his insights into the immersive and ecstatic qualities of horror, likening it to spicy food that delights because it hurts.

We also touch on the importance of live performance and the existential truths that horror can reveal.