In this episode of Alec Mapa: Hot Mess with Matthew Dempsey Psychotherapist, Alec’s husband of 20 years, Jamie Hebert, is back to continue the conversation about why they decided to open up their relationship and the impact it has had on both of them. The feedback after Part 1 of this conversation was overwhelming and the listeners wanted to hear Matt’s perspective on navigating the complexity of open relationships. In this highly vulnerable and personal episode, Matt uses his clinical skills to explore the intimate details of Alec and Jamie’s relationship including the challenging time when Jamie fell for another man and Alec felt hurt, resentful and unsafe. In this episode, the three talk openly about the benefits of opening up your relationship. What makes it challenging? What about the difference between being polyamorous versus polysexual? How do you establish rules and what happens if, despite your best intentions, you end up hurting the person you love the most?

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