Near Future Laboratory Podcast

N°105 - Small Stuff with Ian Bogost


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In this episode of the Near Future Laboratory Podcast, I talk with my old friend Ian Bogost about his new book, “The Small Stuff: How to Lead a More Gratifying Life” — a funny (like..I laughed out loud) , generous, and quietly radical invitation to recover the sensory enchantment of everyday life.Ian’s book begins with ordinary things: stick shifts, toasters, paper cups, plastic film, doorknobs, faucets, pre-ordering shirts, Diet Coke cans, plunger force cups when they are missing their handle, the texture of a phone case, the sound of ice in a motel ice bucket. Of course our conversation quickly opens into something larger, which I think Ian has been asking for awhile: how modern life has dematerialized so many of our encounters with the world, replacing small tactile gratifications with convenience, automation, frictionless interfaces, and screens.What I especially loved about this conversation is that Ian is not making a nostalgic argument for going backward. He is not saying we need to abandon technology or recreate some lost analog past. Instead, he is asking us to accept what the world is already offering everyday: these small, recurring, very much embodied encounters that make up the actual texture of a life. This isn't “mindfulness” as another productivity technique. Nor is it a kind of self-improvement as a grind. Ian is wondering about the possibility that contentment might be right in front of is, even as we appear to be just pulling the pull-tab on a can of suds; it's under our fingertips, in our peripheral vision, in the overlooked background of the day.We talk about the origins of the book, Ian’s long path from games and object-oriented philosophy to ordinary experience, the decline of sensory life, why curiosity may be a virtue worth defending, how to “bring the background into the foreground,” and why gratification and imagination might belong to the same family of openness.It is a conversation about small stuff, which means it is also a conversation about almost everything.https://smallstuffbook.comhttps://bogost.comhttps://www.theatlantic.com/author/ian-bogost/

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