Negotiations Ninja Podcast

Negotiations Lessons from the Field


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Negotiation Lessons From The Field, with Gary Noesner, Ep #119

Many times the hardest negotiation lessons to learn are hard because they are painful. Those learned in real-life failed negotiations can be among the most valuable. The Waco Siege of 1993 stands out as one of the most tragic and mishandled negotiations in American history. Many observations have been made about what happened there, but the FBI hostage negotiators who were on the scene are the ones who know best what went wrong—and why..

Gary Noesner was the lead negotiator at that event He retired from the FBI after 30 years as an investigator, with 23 of those years being in the role of a negotiator. He retired as the Chief of the FBI’s Crisis Negotiation Unit, Critical Incident Response Group and was the first person to hold that position. As the lead negotiator at the Waco Siege, Gary shares openly about what contributed to the regrettable and terrible outcome experienced there. The negotiation lessons you’ll receive from this conversation are priceless.

Outline of This Episode
  • [2:42] Gary’s background: A 30-year career with the FBI, negotiating for 23 years
  • [5:42] The primary reasons the 1993 Waco situation didn’t work out as desired
  • [14:50] The 85-day siege against the Freeman in Montana - a great success
  • [17:36] Why mixed messages occurred in Waco
  • [24:07] Similarities between these hostage negotiations and business negotiations
  • [27:43] Tactics for dealing with frustration in negotiation standoffs
  • [38:17] A tip from Gary: Periodically demonstrate that you understand what they said, including how they feel about it.
Resources & People Mentioned
  • Details of the Waco Siege
  • David Koresh and The Branch Davidian Group
  • BOOK: The Like Switch
  • Gary Noesner’s Behavioral Stairway
  • MOVIE: A Beautiful Day In The Neighborhood
Connect with Gary Roesner
  • www.GaryNoesner.com
  • Gary’s book: Stalling for Time
Connect With Mark
  • Follow Negotiations Ninja on Twitter: @NegotiationPod
  • Connect with Mark on LinkedIn
  • Follow Negotiations Ninja on LinkedIn
  • Connect on Instagram: @NegotiationPod

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