One time in the Nerd group chat, Lizz Nolasco shared a really interesting article/interview about the term “emotional labor.” Then Carol Garboden Murray connected it to a book that discussed “dependency labor” and the two of them had a wonderful, deep, thoughtful chat while the rest of us read in awe. So here are Lizz and Carol to share a bit of that conversation with you all!

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