It’s spring break 2025, which means it’s time for the second Nerd Sleepover in beautiful Indianapolis! In this episode, Mike Huber invites us to consider whether “data” and “evidence” are the same thing, and as you might have guessed from the title, we decided it’s not! Listen in as host Heather Bernt-Santy and some of her favorite nerds hash out claims of evidence based curriculums and other interventions with young children.

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