An interview with Shai Berger, CEO of fonolo.com, a service looking to make phone menu hell a thing of the past.

Audible pick of the week: Sense and Sensibility and Sea Monsters, Unabridged, By Jane Austen and Ben H. Winters, Narrated by Katherine Kellgren. For a free audiobook, visit Audible.com/night.

Hosts: Sarah Lane and Leo Laporte

Guest: Shai Berger