What if play was never just a break from learning but the learning itself? 

In this deeply insightful episode, Laetitia speaks with Angie and Kaycee, the sister duo behind Curious Me, an award-winning, community-led organisation dedicated to creating inclusive, outdoor play spaces for neurodivergent children.

Together, they explore the power of curiosity-led, unstructured play and why messy, chaotic, and even “non-functional” play is essential for learning, regulation, and connection. 

From rough-and-tumble to special interests, this episode busts myths about what play should look like and makes space for what it actually is: a vital, validating part of every child’s development.

Whether you’re a parent, teacher, or therapist, this episode is your permission slip to reimagine play, trust your child’s process, and let go of outdated adult agendas.

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KEY TAKEAWAYS 👇

🧠 Why real play is self-directed, freely chosen and intrinsically motivated

🧠 How neurodivergent children process trauma, emotions, and sensory needs through play

🧠 What “risky play” teaches children about boundaries, safety and resilience

🧠 Why special interest play (like lining cars) is meaningful and doesn’t need to be redirected

🧠 How adults can reflect on their own biases around play, and make space for children to lead

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ABOUT THE GUEST 👇

Angie & Kaycee are the co-founders of Curious Me, an award-winning, community-focused organisation all about play. They create spaces where children explore and connect through curiosity-led, outdoor play that celebrates individuality and neurodiversity.

Grounded in children’s rights, playwork, and play advocacy, Curious Me is driven by the belief that play is real and every child belongs. Through their powerful mix of lived experience and educational expertise, Angie and Kaycee are helping adults and children reclaim the joy and purpose of unstructured, inclusive play.

💻 Website: www.curiousme.com.au

📸 Instagram: @_curiousme

📘 Facebook: Curious Me

ABOUT THE HOST 👇

Laetitia Andrac (Autistic & ADHDer) is an award-winning entrepreneur, international speaker, and podcast host. 

She is the bestselling author of Light It: How to Trust Your Intuition and Build a Thriving Business. With over 15 years of experience in consulting, strategy, and innovation, Laetitia has worked with industry leaders like Deloitte and Telstra. 

Inspired by my journey as a neurodivergent parent, she co-founded Understanding Zoe, an AI-driven solution dedicated to supporting caregivers of neurodivergent children. 

Her passion is creating a more neuroinclusive world, where everyone can thrive—whether in their homes, communities, or workplaces.

What if your child didn’t need fixing and neither did you?

In this beautifully candid episode, Laetitia is joined by Tracey Jewel, AuDHD mum, carer, and founder of Inclusive Mamas Club. Together, they explore the daily chaos, grief, and magic that come with raising neurodivergent children and how flipping the script from “doing it right” to radical acceptance can change everything.

Tracey shares her lived experience navigating life with her son Frankie, and the moment she realised all the tools and resources in the world don’t matter if we’re not resourcing ourselves. She shares how embracing chaos doesn’t mean giving up; it means showing up. For our kids. For ourselves. For the micro-moments of joy in between.

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KEY TAKEAWAYS 👇

🧠 Why chaos is part of the neurodivergent parenting landscape, and why that’s okay.

🧠 Letting go of “perfect routines” and mainstream parenting books.

🧠 Why sensory tools shouldn’t just be for our kids.

🧠 Grief, joy and the power of noticing micro moments.

🧠 How to reconnect to your inner child and create new norms that fit your family.

🧠 What radical acceptance actually looks like in daily life.

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ABOUT THE GUEST 👇

Tracey Jewel is an AuDHD mum and carer to her son, Frankie. With over 15 years of experience in the disability space and a postgraduate qualification in Social Impact, Tracey brings deep lived and professional insight into how neurodivergent families are supported—and often overlooked.

She is the founder of Inclusive Mamas Club, a not-for-profit peer community for mums and carers of neurodivergent children. Through storytelling, resources, and safe-space connection, Tracey is helping caregivers feel less alone and more empowered to rewrite the rulebook and reclaim joy in the everyday.

💻 Website: www.inclusivemamasclub.com

💛 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/inclusivemamasclub/ 

ABOUT THE HOST 👇

Laetitia Andrac (Autistic & ADHDer) is an award-winning entrepreneur, international speaker, and podcast host. 

She is the bestselling author of Light It: How to Trust Your Intuition and Build a Thriving Business. With over 15 years of experience in consulting, strategy, and innovation, Laetitia has worked with industry leaders like Deloitte and Telstra. 

Inspired by my journey as a neurodivergent parent, she co-founded Understanding Zoe, an AI-driven solution dedicated to supporting caregivers of neurodivergent children. 

Her passion is creating a more neuroinclusive world, where everyone can thrive—whether in their homes, communities, or workplaces.

What if our bodies are sending messages we were never taught to understand?

In this episode, Laetitia is joined by Kelly Mahler, occupational therapist, interoception groupie, and author of The Interoception Curriculum. Together, they explore the power of interoception, our ability to sense internal signals like hunger, thirst, pain, and emotion, and how this sense is vital for understanding ourselves and supporting neurodivergent children.

You’ll learn why many neurodivergent people have “muted” or “intense” interoceptive experiences, how these impact behaviours (like meltdowns or feeding challenges), and what it means to shift from a behaviour lens to a curiosity lens. With deep empathy and clarity, Kelly gives parents, teachers and therapists a new way to tune into what’s happening beneath the surface—and why believing the body always matters.

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KEY TAKEAWAYS 👇

🧠 What is interoception, and how it impacts emotion, regulation and daily life

🧠 The link between interoception and feeding struggles

🧠 Why some people only recognise hunger, pain or overwhelm at the last minute

🧠 The difference between muted and intense interoceptive experiences

🧠 Why "picky eating" is a surface label, and what to get curious about instead.

🧠 How to start modelling and asking curiosity questions like “What is your body telling you?”

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ABOUT THE GUEST 👇

Kelly Mahler is an award-winning occupational therapist, author, and interoception groupie known for her boundless curiosity and empathetic approach. Holding a Doctorate in Occupational Therapy, she has served school-aged children and adults for over 22 years. Kelly is the author of 12 resources, including The Interoception Curriculum, now used in over 30 countries worldwide. She enjoys speaking internationally on interoception, neuro-affirming practices, and playful strategies for inner exploration using a lens of curiosity, validation, and empathy.

💻 Website: www.kelly-mahler.com

📸 Instagram: @kelly_mahler

ABOUT THE HOST 👇

Laetitia Andrac (Autistic & ADHDer) is an award-winning entrepreneur, international speaker, and podcast host. 

She is the bestselling author of Light It: How to Trust Your Intuition and Build a Thriving Business. With over 15 years of experience in consulting, strategy, and innovation, Laetitia has worked with industry leaders like Deloitte and Telstra. 

Inspired by my journey as a neurodivergent parent, she co-founded Understanding Zoe, an AI-driven solution dedicated to supporting caregivers of neurodivergent children. 

Her passion is creating a more neuroinclusive world, where everyone can thrive—whether in their homes, communities, or workplaces.

How can we reduce communication breakdowns for neurodivergent learners, across every setting?

In this affirming and practical episode, Laetitia is joined by Jess and Jenn, the co-creators of MyComms, a communication accessibility app supporting children, families, and professionals with visual supports that actually work.

Drawing from years of experience across education, behaviour support, assistive tech and speech pathology, Jenn and Jess share how their unique collaboration is helping neurodivergent individuals understand and be understood in the moments that matter most. They unpack executive functioning overload, school transitions, meltdowns, and explain why visuals aren’t just helpful, they’re essential.

Whether you're a parent, teacher, therapist or just visual yourself (hello Post-Its!), this episode will show you how visuals are anchors for emotional security, and how personalisation can make all the difference.

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KEY TAKEAWAYS 👇

🧠 What executive functioning overload really looks like (and how to support it)

🧠 Why visual supports are better than verbal instructions for overwhelmed nervous systems

🧠 How to make transitions and school routines easier with task breakdowns and visual cues

🧠 What “co-design” means when it comes to communication tools for kids and adults

🧠 The ripple effect of clear communication

🧠 Why assistive tech like MyComms can empower families, not replace therapists

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ABOUT THE GUEST 👇

Jess is a highly experienced and empathetic Teacher, Behaviour Support Practitioner and Inclusion Consultant with a focus on executive functioning, behaviour and meaningful inclusion. Her work spans classroom teaching, behaviour support and inclusion consulting, bringing practical expertise in creating environments that enable learning, communication and independence.

Jenn is a highly experienced Speech Pathologist specialising in complex communication needs, inclusive practice and assistive technology. Jenn lectures medical students at Macquarie University and has completed senior-level leadership training through the Association of Independent Schools, building a strong foundation in education leadership, organisational change and collaborative practice.

Together Jess and Jenn have created MyComms, a communication accessibility platform designed to ensure that every person can understand and be understood in the moments that matter most. Their combined transdisciplinary expertise drives a powerful focus on co-design, real-world application and tools that reduce communication barriers across home, school, health, disability and aged care settings. Through MyComms and their professional learning programmes, Jess and Jenn are championing a future where communication support is accessible, adaptable and genuinely inclusive for people of all ages and communication profiles.

💻 Website: https://www.commspec.co

📸 Instagram: @mycomms.au

📱 App Store: Download MyComms on Apple

📱 Google Play: Download MyComms on Android

ABOUT THE HOST 👇

Laetitia Andrac (Autistic & ADHDer) is an award-winning entrepreneur, international speaker, and podcast host. 

She is the bestselling author of Light It: How to Trust Your Intuition and Build a Thriving Business. With over 15 years of experience in consulting, strategy, and innovation, Laetitia has worked with industry leaders like Deloitte and Telstra. 

Inspired by my journey as a neurodivergent parent, she co-founded Understanding Zoe, an AI-driven solution dedicated to supporting caregivers of neurodivergent children. 

Her passion is creating a more neuroinclusive world, where everyone can thrive—whether in their homes, communities, or workplaces.

How can we support neurodivergent kids to communicate in their own way?

In this vibrant, practical and inspiring episode, Laetitia is joined by Adina Levy, a proud AuDHDer, speech therapist, educator, podcaster, and business coach for neurodivergent folks.

Adina is the founder of both Play. Learn. Chat. and Differently Aligned Business Coaching, and she's on a mission to reframe communication goals in therapy, and in life. Together, they explore why traditional “speech” goals often do more harm than good, what it means to truly honour autonomy in communication, and how therapists and parents can reframe expectations to support neurodivergent ways of being.

They dive into goal-setting that centres safety, autonomy and respect—not compliance. And if you’ve ever wondered how affirming support actually looks in real life? You’ll love Adina’s story about her daughter’s self-made AAC tool at school.

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KEY TAKEAWAYS 👇

🧠 Why “speech” is a limiting term, and how to shift our focus to communication

🧠 The harm of compliance-based goals (and how to do better)

🧠 How therapists and parents can reframe expectations in real-time

🧠 Why self-advocacy begins with being heard in your own way

🧠 What systemic change we need in professional bodies and policy

🧠 A powerful example of child-led communication support in action

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ABOUT THE GUEST 👇

Adina Levy (she/her) is a proud AuDHDer (Autistic ADHDer), Speech Therapist, Professional Educator, Podcaster, Speaker, and Business Coach for Neurodivergent folks. She runs Play. Learn. Chat. and Differently Aligned Business Coaching. Adina is on a mission to shift the perception of the global community, to understand neurodivergence as difference (which is fine!). She believes (and lives) that it's possible to be Neurodivergent and thrive. To live outside of burnout and stress. This takes greater acceptance of neurodivergence from others, shifting environments to be most supportive, and a dash of self-acceptance.

🎧 Exploring Neurodiversity Podcast: https://playlearnchat.com/exploring-neurodiversity-podcast

🎧 Differently Aligned Podcast: https://differentlyaligned.com/podcast/

💻 Website: https://playlearnchat.com/ https://differentlyaligned.com/ 

📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/play.learn.chat/ https://www.instagram.com/differently.aligned

📝 Get Adina’s free guide: How Neurodiversity Affirming is Your Child’s Team? → playlearnchat.com/freebies

ABOUT THE HOST 👇

Laetitia Andrac (Autistic & ADHDer) is an award-winning entrepreneur, international speaker, and podcast host. 

She is the bestselling author of Light It: How to Trust Your Intuition and Build a Thriving Business. With over 15 years of experience in consulting, strategy, and innovation, Laetitia has worked with industry leaders like Deloitte and Telstra. 

Inspired by my journey as a neurodivergent parent, she co-founded Understanding Zoe, an AI-driven solution dedicated to supporting caregivers of neurodivergent children. 

Her passion is creating a more neuroinclusive world, where everyone can thrive—whether in their homes, communities, or workplaces.

What if we let go of the pressure to “fix” picky eating, and honoured what feels safe to eat instead?

In this episode of Neurodivergent Pulse, Laetitia is joined by Margo White, a Certified Practising Nutritionist, AuDHDer and founder of Whole Body Nutrition. Together, they unpack what ARFID (Avoidant/Restrictive Food Intake Disorder) really is, and how we can better support neurodivergent children and families to feel safe, seen and nourished.

With a beautifully affirming lens and lived experience as both a clinician and a parent, Margo challenges outdated narratives and reminds us that food doesn’t have to look a certain way to be enough.

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KEY TAKEAWAYS 👇

🧠 What ARFID is (and what it’s not)

🧠 Why “picky eating” isn’t the full story

🧠 How cultural food, sensory preferences, and trauma shape eating

🧠 Why “fed is best” is the most freeing feeding philosophy

🧠 How to support your child’s eating without shame or pressure

🧠 Practical ways to advocate with schools, carers + extended family

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ABOUT THE GUEST 👇

Margo is a Certified Practising Nutritionist and the founder of Whole Body Nutrition. Her practice specialises in supporting Neurodivergent individuals of all ages, genders, and backgrounds to cultivate an emotionally healthy relationship with food.

As a proud AuDHDer and mother of two, Margo understands the challenges that both her clients and their families are navigating when they present to her in the clinic.

Margo has developed a unique style of practice that draws from a neuro-affirming, trauma-informed and lived experience lens. She gently encourages her clients to understand and accept that there are different ways of eating and takes the time to validate all sensory feeding differences, which further builds on their therapeutic relationship.

💻 Website: wholebodynutrition.com.au

📸 Instagram: @margo_wholebodynutrition

ABOUT THE HOST 👇

Laetitia Andrac (Autistic & ADHDer) is an award-winning entrepreneur, international speaker, and podcast host. 

She is the bestselling author of Light It: How to Trust Your Intuition and Build a Thriving Business. With over 15 years of experience in consulting, strategy, and innovation, Laetitia has worked with industry leaders like Deloitte and Telstra. 

Inspired by my journey as a neurodivergent parent, she co-founded Understanding Zoe, an AI-driven solution dedicated to supporting caregivers of neurodivergent children. 

Her passion is creating a more neuroinclusive world, where everyone can thrive—whether in their homes, communities, or workplaces.

What does intimacy look like when you're parenting neurodivergent children, or navigating your own neurodivergence in relationships?

In this grounded and delightfully candid episode, Laetitia is joined by Annelil (they/she), a clinical psychologist, sexologist, and AuDHD’er who helps neurodivergent individuals and couples rediscover intimacy and connection, on their own terms.

Together, they explore what it means to be intimate without the pressure, expectation or norms that often don’t fit neurodivergent lives. From practical tips to creative approaches, this conversation is a beautiful invitation to rethink how we love, connect, and care, especially when we’re caregiving.

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KEY TAKEAWAYS 👇

🧠 Why sex ≠ the only kind of intimacy

🧠 What emotional and spiritual intimacy look like in neurodivergent families

🧠 How to create “pockets of connection” in busy, chaotic lives

🧠 Creative ideas for intimacy when traditional date nights aren’t possible

🧠 How reigniting connection impacts everything from co-regulation to joy

🧠 Where systems need to change to make space for love and support

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ABOUT THE GUEST 👇

Annelil is an AudHD’er clinical psychologist and sexologist, using their personal experiences, along with clinical expertise in the field to work with neurodivergent individuals in relationships. 

Lil's areas of interest include:

• Neurodivergence

• Mind/Body connection

• Sex, dating, relationships and intimacy

• Attachment

• Spirituality
  

She holds her Certificate III and IV in Fitness, Master of Clinical Psychology, Postgraduate Diploma of Psychology, Bachelor of Psychological Science and Reiki (level 2) certification. She utilises her array of knowledge and passion for all things sex, relationships and intimacy to support neurokin with their ability to deepen and strengthen connections together. Lil has developed and created incredible resources, as well as events, couples retreats and courses that are tailored specifically to the AuDHD community. These events and resources have largely been complimented by our neurokin for their level of inclusivity, adaptability and resourcefulness.

💻 Website: neurokinnection.com.au & nk-intimacy-alchemy.com.au

📸 Instagram: @neurokinnection

ABOUT THE HOST 👇

Laetitia Andrac (Autistic & ADHDer) is an award-winning entrepreneur, international speaker, and podcast host. 

She is the bestselling author of Light It: How to Trust Your Intuition and Build a Thriving Business. With over 15 years of experience in consulting, strategy, and innovation, Laetitia has worked with industry leaders like Deloitte and Telstra. 

Inspired by my journey as a neurodivergent parent, she co-founded Understanding Zoe, an AI-driven solution dedicated to supporting caregivers of neurodivergent children. 

Her passion is creating a more neuroinclusive world, where everyone can thrive—whether in their homes, communities, or workplaces.

What if school or work just… didn’t work?

In this honest and deeply personal episode, Laetitia is joined by Clément Baissat, founder of HopeStage – a social enterprise created by and for people living with bipolarity. Together, they explore how traditional systems often fail to support neurodivergent individuals, and what it looks like to find your own path forward.

From misdiagnoses and medication challenges to sleep, shame and self-agency, Clément opens up about the real-life experience of living with bipolarity – and what it takes to build a life of hope and meaning. Whether you’re navigating mental health yourself or supporting a loved one, this conversation is a powerful reminder that recovery isn’t linear, and healing doesn’t happen alone.

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KEY TAKEAWAYS 👇

🧠 Why school and work often break down for neurodivergent people

🧠 Understanding bipolarity beyond the stereotypes

🧠 How disclosure is personal, and how to choose when and how to share

🧠 Why hope, support teams, and acceptance change everything

🧠 The link between sleep, substances and self-regulation

🧠 A future vision of personalised support systems for every neurotype

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ABOUT THE GUEST 👇

Clément Baissat is the founder of HopeStage, a social enterprise created by and for people living with bipolarity. He builds tools, trainings, and communities that help individuals and families better understand bipolarity, prevent relapses, and move forward with hope. His work spans podcasts, online courses, and practical resources that bridge science and lived experience. Originally from Paris and now based in Sydney, Clément is passionate about showing that recovery is possible.

💻 Website: hopestage.com

🎧 Podcast: podcast.hopestage.com

📸 Instagram: hopestage.fr

ABOUT THE HOST 👇

Laetitia Andrac (Autistic & ADHDer) is an award-winning entrepreneur, international speaker, and podcast host. 

She is the bestselling author of Light It: How to Trust Your Intuition and Build a Thriving Business. With over 15 years of experience in consulting, strategy, and innovation, Laetitia has worked with industry leaders like Deloitte and Telstra. 

Inspired by my journey as a neurodivergent parent, she co-founded Understanding Zoe, an AI-driven solution dedicated to supporting caregivers of neurodivergent children. 

Her passion is creating a more neuroinclusive world, where everyone can thrive—whether in their homes, communities, or workplaces.

What if communication wasn’t about words at all?

In this deeply moving and expansive episode, Laetitia is joined by Christina Schmidt, AuDHD speech therapist and founder of Free to Be Me Speech Therapy. Together, they explore communication beyond spoken language - through rhythm, movement, art, gesture, silence, scripting, and more.

Christina brings her personal and professional experience to life with raw honesty and deep wisdom, offering a new lens on how we understand, validate and celebrate different ways of expressing ourselves - especially for those who are non-speaking or communicate differently.

Whether you’re a parent, therapist, teacher, or simply someone curious about how to be more inclusive in your relationships, this episode is a powerful invitation to slow down, tune in, and truly listen.

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KEY TAKEAWAYS 👇

🧠 Why communication isn’t a hierarchy – and spoken words aren’t at the top

🧠 Ways to support children and adults who communicate beyond speech

🧠 How silence, scripting and body language all carry meaning

🧠 The power of slowing down, getting curious and listening with your whole self

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ABOUT THE GUEST 👇

Christina Schmidt (she/her) is a Black African-American-Australian, multicultural and multidialectal AuDHD woman who proudly embraces her identity across all facets of her work and advocacy. As the founder of Free to Be Me Speech Therapy, she provides neuroaffirming support to paediatric and adult clients in ways that honour each person’s unique communication needs, strengths and ways of being.  Her approach is transformative - grounded in deep presence, cultural integrity and lived/living experience. Whether she’s guiding fellow speech pathologists, connecting meaningfully in client sessions, or presenting to captivated audiences around the world, she weaves together her personal and professional experience to create a resonant, lasting impact. Christina lives, works, plays and creates on the unceded lands of the Wurundjeri People in Naarm (Melbourne, Victoria, Australia). Her work is rooted in justice, joy and the ongoing commitment to amplifying diverse voices and stories - always with the belief that we all deserve to be seen, heard and free to be.

🌐 Shop - https://www.freetobemespeech.com.au/shop

🔗 All the links - https://linktr.ee/FreetoBeMe.speech

ABOUT THE HOST 👇

Laetitia Andrac (Autistic & ADHDer) is an award-winning entrepreneur, international speaker, and podcast host. 

She is the bestselling author of Light It: How to Trust Your Intuition and Build a Thriving Business. With over 15 years of experience in consulting, strategy, and innovation, Laetitia has worked with industry leaders like Deloitte and Telstra. 

Inspired by my journey as a neurodivergent parent, she co-founded Understanding Zoe, an AI-driven solution dedicated to supporting caregivers of neurodivergent children. 

Her passion is creating a more neuroinclusive world, where everyone can thrive—whether in their homes, communities, or workplaces.

How do you find balance as someone who is neurodivergent?

In this beautifully grounded episode, Laetitia is joined by Sandhya Menon, an AuDHD developmental psychologist, author, and creator of the beloved books The Brain Forest, The Rainbow Brain, and My Body’s Power Pack.

Together, they unpack energy accounting, a gentle, practical approach for understanding how your nervous system gains and loses energy throughout the day.

Whether you’re a parent, teacher or therapist, Sandhya offers powerful tools to help neurodivergent children (and ourselves!) stay in the black, not the red, when it comes to our daily energy needs. They explore how burnout builds invisibly, why rest is as important as activity, and how we can design systems and rhythms that honour every person’s power pack.

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KEY TAKEAWAYS 👇

🧠 How energy accounting works like a bank.

🧠 Why not all “chargers” actually recharge

🧠 How school takes more energy than we think

🧠 Why predictability protects energy

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ABOUT THE GUEST 👇

Sandhya Menon is an AuDHD Developmental Psychologist and Author of the much-loved kids’ books The Brain Forest, The Rainbow Brain, and her latest creation, My Body’s Power Pack. She spends her days helping children and families build strong self-identities that celebrate and know their neurotype before the world tries to tell them otherwise.

Her work is a mash-up of sharp clinical knowledge, lived experience, and just enough whimsy to make even the trickiest concepts feel human (and yes, actually fun). She also draws from her collectivist family roots in Singapore and her neurodivergent self to call out Western and neuronorms that don’t serve our communities and make conversations truly inclusive and representative of our different realities.

💻 Website: www.onwardsandupwardspsychology.com.au

📸 Instagram: @onwardsandupwardspsych

📘 Facebook: @onanduppsych

ABOUT THE HOST 👇

Laetitia Andrac (Autistic & ADHDer) is an award-winning entrepreneur, international speaker, and podcast host. 

She is the bestselling author of Light It: How to Trust Your Intuition and Build a Thriving Business. With over 15 years of experience in consulting, strategy, and innovation, Laetitia has worked with industry leaders like Deloitte and Telstra. 

Inspired by my journey as a neurodivergent parent, she co-founded Understanding Zoe, an AI-driven solution dedicated to supporting caregivers of neurodivergent children. 

Her passion is creating a more neuroinclusive world, where everyone can thrive—whether in their homes, communities, or workplaces.