NeuroDivergent Relationships Podcast with Kathy Marshack, Ph.D.

Once you understand empathy, you have a better chance of resolving problems in your NeuroDivergent relationship. 


Join us for today’s episode where Dr. Kathy delves into the characteristics of both the Empathy Triad-Sensitive person and the Empathy Triad-Blind person.

This episode is a special Fathers’ Day message where Dr. Kathy speaks about the similarities she and her dad share having had to navigate a marriage with a spouse on the spectrum.

Join us for today’s episode as Dr. Kathy discusses what it’s like being the NeuroTypical family member who no one understands.

Recently, one of Dr. Kathy’s NeuroDivergent clients took to Chat GPT to ask how to navigate interactions in his relationship with a NeuroTypical individual.

While some of the advice and tips it gave are great, many of what it recommended is not possible for a NeuroDiverse individual, such as interactional conversations or paraphrasing.

“Chitchat” or what is commonly known as that in-between the lines, empathic language is what NeuroTypicals use to connect with others or initiate a conversation.

However, NeuroDiverse folks face challenges in interpreting nuances in conversation, such as reading between the lines or engaging in casual conversation. For them, words hold literal meaning without any hidden layers or deeper significance.

Join us today as Dr. Kathy reads a letter to each of her daughters, Bianca and Phoebe, recalling her memories of their upbringing. She speaks about:

- The moments that lead her to the realization that one of her children and her husband were NeuroDiverse.

- How the stress of living with two NeuroDiverse family members affects her NeuroTypical child

- The events leading up to the writing of her books and the development of her courses

Join us today as Dr. Kathy takes us behind the scenes of her life and shares with us why she takes her life personally and why you should, too.

Listen as she shares an edited excerpt from her book, “Empathy is More Than Words,” recalls her brief visit to a county jail, and how the life of the personal is a source of strength.

Join us today as Dr. Kathy dives into how much of the social justice movement around NeuroDiversity often leaves out the experience of the NeuroTypical loved ones and the challenges that come along with the relationship.