Alex Greene welcomes back Liza Kimble for an exciting follow-up conversation about her groundbreaking experience at the Fascia Congress in New Orleans. Fresh from her travels, Liza shares how she introduced TRE and neurogenic tremoring to the international fascia research community, where over 100 attendees experienced tremoring for the first time. The congress brought together leading voices in nervous system work, including Stephen Porges, Robert Schleip, and Gil Hedley, creating a unique convergence of scientific research and therapeutic practice that validated the deep connection between fascia, trauma, and the autonomic nervous system.

Liza takes listeners behind the scenes of this transformative event, sharing insights from keynote presentations on the fascia-nervous system connection, Gil Hedley's emotional vagus nerve dissection, and conversations about consciousness within connective tissue. She discusses the positive reception to her TRE demonstration with Professor Werner Klingler, the power of vagal activation through sound and voice work, and her growing passion for integrating indigenous healing wisdom—including Sami yoiking traditions—with somatic practices. This conversation illuminates the exciting frontier where ancient healing methods, cutting-edge fascia research, and neurogenic tremoring converge to offer new pathways for trauma healing and embodied wellness.

Listen to the full episode to discover how the fascia world is embracing neurogenic tremoring and what this means for the future of trauma healing and somatic therapy.

Key Highlights:
00:04 - Introduction and Congress Overview
 03:10 - Robert Schleip on Fascia
 05:29 - Fascia Responds to Stress
 08:45 - Fabiana de Silva's Vagal Resets
 11:17 - Self-Help Grounding Through Squeezing
 12:18 - Gil Hedley's Vagus Dissection
 14:01 - Sounding and Vagal Activation
 18:06 - Fascia, Consciousness, and Soul
 21:28 - Meeting Stephen Porges
 25:32 - Traumatic Brain Injury Insights
 30:00 - Liza's TRE Presentation Experience
 32:51 - 100 People Experience Tremoring
 40:00 - Future Congress Plans
 42:40 - Sami Yoiking Healing Songs
 48:34 - Human Algorithm Workshop Preview

Resources Mentioned:
Robert Schleip - Fascia Research Foundation
Gil Hedley - Nerve Tour and Anatomy Videos: https://www.gilhedley.com/ 
Stephen Porges - Polyvagal Theory: https://www.stephenporges.com/ 
Fabiana Silva - Fascia Research Society President: https://www.facebook.com/FasciaResearchSociety/
John Sharkey - Anatomist and Fascia Researcher: http://www.johnsharkeyevents.com/ 
Journal of Movement and Bodywork
Liza Kimble’s website: https://lizakimble.com/ 

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 Neurogenic Integration: https://neurogenic-integration.com/
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Alex Greene speaks with Bonnie Pariser, a TRE provider and yoga therapist who runs Yoga Loca studio in Frenchtown, New Jersey. Bonnie shares how she transformed her yoga therapy practice by integrating TRE (Tension & Trauma Release Exercises) with traditional yoga approaches. Her unique journey from fashion design to embodiment work led her to discover that tremoring can dramatically improve outcomes for clients with chronic tension, anxiety, and trauma.

Bonnie explains how tremoring prepares the nervous system for yoga practices, especially for clients who are too activated to benefit from conventional stretching or meditation. She uses the Ayurvedic dosha framework to understand different nervous system states: vata (anxiety/bracing), pitta (hypervigilance), and kapha (shutdown). This approach works with the body's natural healing mechanisms rather than against them.

The conversation covers practical applications including emotional regulation, conflict resolution, and spiritual practice preparation. Bonnie shares examples from her classes and one-on-one sessions, showing how clients move from seeking physical relief to developing life management skills. Her integration of ancient wisdom with modern trauma approaches demonstrates how nervous system regulation can transform both therapy outcomes and daily life.

Listen to the full episode to discover how this powerful combination of TRE and yoga can transform your approach to nervous system regulation and embodiment practices.

Key Highlights:
0:00 Introduction 
1:49 Fashion to Embodiment 
4:19 TRE Training Discovery 
6:06 Yoga Sutras Connection 
7:06 Kumbhaka Breathless State 
12:09 Integration with Classes 
17:05 Emotional Regulation Practice 
18:44 Conflict Resolution Applications 
26:51 Ayurvedic Dosha Perspective 
27:20 Vata Derangement Treatment 
30:53 One-on-One Applications 
35:52 Personal Practice Evolution 
37:17 Tandava Dance Connection 
41:08 Kriya Spontaneous Movements 
50:58 Myofascial Release Integration 
52:50 Future Learning Directions

Links and Resources: 
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/YogaLokaNJ/ 
Websites: https://www.yoga-loka.com/     http://www.yoga-therapy-can-help.me/ 
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/yoga_loka/ 
David Berceli - TRE founder and trainer: https://treglobal.org/about-dr-david-berceli/ 
Mukunda Stiles - Structural Yoga Therapy: http://www.innerquestyoga.com/aboutmukunda.html 
Patanjali's Yoga Sutras: https://iep.utm.edu/yoga/ 
Swami Muktananda - Kriya yoga teacher: https://www.siddhayoga.org/baba-muktananda/ 
John F. Barnes Myofascial Release: https://www.myofascialrelease.com/ 
Kripalu Center for Yoga & Health: https://kripalu.org/ 
Ayurvedic dosha system (Vata, Pitta, Kapha):https://www.forestessentialsindia.com/blog/doshas-in-ayurveda-vata-pitta-and-kapha.html?srsltid=AfmBOoqHaN6UsWffV_qa9BSsmCI48Nk8fN9i3JTsydWxGncwSx9kh1dr

Alex Greene talks with Liza Kimble, a body therapist from South Africa who combines TRE (Tension and Trauma Releasing Exercises) with gentle touch work. Liza has worked with bodies for 32 years and discovered that lighter touch often works better than deep, painful massage. She works with both people and horses, teaching them how to release tension through natural tremoring.

Liza shares how she went from doing very intense massage work to learning gentler approaches that help the nervous system feel safe. Her work with horses taught her important lessons about healing - when horses feel comfortable, they naturally start to shake and release stored stress. She's excited to present her work at a big research conference in New Orleans.

The conversation covers how to combine different healing methods, why therapists need to take care of themselves, and Liza's interest in ancient wisdom about human behavior patterns. This episode helps both therapists and regular people understand how gentle body work can help heal trauma and calm the nervous system.

Key Highlights:
00:01 - Background introduction
00:03 - Massage therapy beginnings
00:05 - Psoas activation discovery
00:07 - Meeting David Berceli
00:09 - First TRE experience
00:12 - Combining TRE fascial
00:14 - Fascia Congress attendance
00:16 - Horse tremoring discovery
00:19 - Touch technique evolution
00:22 - Client homework protocols
00:25 - Horse therapy training
00:29 - Traumatized horse transformation
00:34 - Horse tremoring patterns
00:37 - Equine therapy philosophy
00:42 - Teaching methodology evolution
00:44 - Upcoming Congress excitement
00:50 - Human algorithm teachings

Links and Resources: 
International Fascia Research Congress: https://www.frscongress.org/ 
Liza’s Website: https://lizakimble.com/ 
Polyvagal Theory resources by Dr. Stephen Porges: https://www.polyvagalinstitute.org/whatispolyvagaltheory 
Tom Myers' Anatomy Trains and fascial meridians: https://www.myersmyofascialmeridians.com/

What if the secret to deep healing wasn't found in a technique---but in the quality of presence you bring to another human being? In this episode, Alex reconnects with Simba Stenqvist, TRE® trainer and somatic innovator based in Thailand, to explore his groundbreaking modality called Internal Alchemy---a fusion of neurogenic tremoring, fascial work, breathwork, and energetic practices.

Simba shares how Internal Alchemy emerged not from intellectual design, but through direct revelation during meditation---symbols, insights, and movements that seemed to arise through him rather than from him. Drawing on 25+ years in martial arts, bodywork, and nervous system practices, Simba reveals how respecting traditional lineages means bringing them forward to meet contemporary needs. From his multicultural background (Swedish-Dominican) to his "old school" teaching philosophy, Simba embodies the art of working with "who's in front of you" rather than rigid protocols.

Together, Alex and Simba dive deep into the mystery of masterful facilitation---how experienced practitioners learn to trust their intuition, follow subtle body cues, and create spaces where profound healing can unfold. This conversation explores presence as medicine, the power of authentic witnessing, and how combining fascial work with tremoring can access layers of stored trauma that pure nervous system approaches might miss. If you've ever wondered what transforms a good practitioner into a masterful one, this episode offers profound insights into the art of somatic healing.

Key Highlights:

• [00:03:00] Internal Alchemy Origins Story
• [05:15:00] Innovation Meets Ancient Wisdom
• [09:52:00] Teaching Who's Present Philosophy
• [14:27:00] Fascial Work Beyond Structure
• [17:34:00] Connecting Somatic Worlds
• [22:27:00] Creating Safe Containers
• [25:43:00] Witnessing & Reframing Trauma
• [28:30:00] Intuitive vs Intellectual Knowing
• [33:00:00] Organism-to-Organism Communication
• [40:15:00] Presence as Transmission
• [46:57:00] Natural vs Supernatural Abilities
• [48:47:00] Beyond Nervous System Labels

Links and Resources: 

• Website: https://livingwiththespirit.com/ 
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/livingwiththespirit/ 

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Neurogenic Integration: https://neurogenic-integration.com/ 

Instagram: @neurogenicintegration

This week, Alex sits down with Daniel Seifert, a journalist whose work has appeared in the BBC, New York Times, and National Geographic. Daniel shares how he stumbled upon neurogenic tremoring through YouTube videos while looking for ways to manage deadline stress. What started as curious exploration quickly became a regular practice that helped him sleep better, release jaw tension, and feel more at ease in his body. His story is a reminder that our bodies already know how to heal—sometimes we just need to rediscover the natural mechanisms that are built right in!

Daniel's experience goes beyond just physical relief—he noticed how tremoring seemed to "dissolve the hyphen between mind and body," making him more receptive to music and even improving his posture. He compares the tremoring response to laughter: both are natural, sometimes uncontrollable movements that bring deep release and relief. Alex adds fascinating context about how Dr. David Berceli developed this approach after observing natural tremoring responses in war zones, recognizing that what many see as just "shaking with fear" might actually be the body's innate wisdom trying to complete the stress cycle.

The conversation flows into how tremoring complements other wellness practices that Daniel enjoys, from Tai Chi to breathwork to sauna and cold plunging. Alex shares stories of how this simple practice is spreading through fire departments, religious communities, and meditation centers—creating powerful results when paired with other modalities. Whether you're new to body-based practices or a seasoned wellness enthusiast, this warm conversation offers a friendly introduction to how inviting your body's natural tremors might become a game-changer in your healing toolkit.

Key Highlights: 
0:00 - Introduction to Daniel's story
4:12 - Discovering tremoring on YouTube
8:30 - "What happened during my first tremoring session"
13:45 - When tremoring leads to spontaneous laughter
18:23 - How Tai Chi complements neurogenic tremoring
22:50 - Enhanced music appreciation after tremoring
27:15 - The posture benefits Daniel experienced
33:40 - "Your body knows how to heal"
39:10 - Invitation vs resistance in the body
42:30 - Tips for tremoring beginners
48:15 - Breathwork and tremoring: perfect partners
52:40 - The Feldenkrais connection
56:20 - Surprising insights about athletic bodies and tremoring
59:45 - How firefighters are using tremoring
1:03:12 - Meditation becomes deeper after tremoring

Links & Resources
Shaking Medicine: https://www.amazon.com/Shaking-Medicine-Healing-Ecstatic-Movement/dp/1594771499 
Wilhelm Reich: https://www.britannica.com/biography/Wilhelm-Reich 
Alexander Lowen: https://www.lowenfoundation.org/about-alexander-lowen 
Institute for Zen Leadership: https://zenleader.global/ 

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Neurogenic Integration: https://neurogenic-integration.com/ 
Instagram: @neurogenicintegration

What if your client’s tremor, stretch, or undulation wasn’t a symptom—but a sign of healing? In this episode, Alex sits down with physical therapist, somatic educator and TRE Provider, Joel Begin to explore the natural, spontaneous movements that often arise in bodywork, movement therapy, and somatic healing—but are still largely misunderstood.

Joel shares the story behind his 2022 paper, “Characterizing a Common Class of Spontaneous Movements,” a collaborative work that brings together perspectives from across the globe to map out how tremors, shakes, and fluid movements emerge across therapeutic, spiritual, and cultural contexts. From TRE® and myofascial unwinding to Qigong and authentic movement, Joel helps us reframe these expressions not as random or pathological—but as beneceptive and healing.

Together, we explore the potential of spontaneous movement as a doorway into nervous system regulation, trauma resolution, and embodied intelligence. This episode invites you to see what might already be happening in your sessions with new eyes—and perhaps, to trust the body just a little more.

Key Highlights:

• [00:02:00] The Paper That Sparked It All: Characterizing a Common Class of Spontaneous Movements
• [00:08:00] What Is Myofascial Unwinding?
• [00:14:30] Modalities That Evoke Spontaneous Movement
• [00:17:45] Spiritual Practices & Movement States
• [00:24:00] Case Study: Spontaneous Movement After Surgery
• [00:27:00] When Movement Feels Uncomfortable
• [00:33:00] TRE®, Trauma, and the Polyvagal Lens
• [00:38:45] Understanding Freeze Through Biotensegrity
• [00:41:00] What Makes These Movements Arise?
• [00:43:30] Creating a Container for Curiosity

Links & Resources

• 📝 Joel Begin’s 2022 Paper:
   “Characterizing a Common Class of Spontaneous Movements”
   Read the full paper in the International Journal of Therapeutic Massage and Bodywork
• Joel Begin’s Practice – Creative Pathways PT
• Continuum Movement: https://continuummovement.com/ 
• Somatic Experiencing by Peter Levine: https://www.somaticexperiencing.com/about-peter 
• Polyvagal Theory by Dr. Stephen Porges: https://www.stephenporges.com/ 
• Myofascial Release John F. Barnes

Find us Online: 

Neurogenic Integration: https://neurogenic-integration.com/ 

Instagram: @neurogenicintegration