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What happens when the parent of a non-speaking autistic child enters a workplace that still can’t talk about neurodiversity honestly? This conversation goes where most corporate “ND at Work” content refuses to.
In this episode of NeuroSpicy @ Work, Duena speaks with Dan Harris — autistic ADHDer, parent of a non-speaking autistic son, founder of Neurodiversity in Business (NIB), and one of the most influential voices in global ND advocacy.
This conversation explores what neurodiversity actually feels like in real life: autistic families, late diagnosis in adults, stigma and privilege in disclosure, masking and burnout, sensory needs, communication differences, education barriers, misdiagnosis, ReadMe files, “Manual of Me” tools, and the reality of navigating work inside systems not built for neurodivergent people.
Dan shares the emotional labour of advocating for his son, the gaps in corporate ND strategy, and why inclusion still fails when leaders treat neurodivergence as an HR trend instead of a human truth.
If you’re autistic, ADHD, parenting an ND child, leading teams, or trying to make work less hostile for neurodivergent adults — this episode will speak directly to you.
Listen to the full series: https://neurospicyatwork.com
Take the NeuroSpicy Self-Assessment: https://amineurospicy.com
Learn more about Dan’s organisation: Search “Neurodiversity in Business NIB”
Learn more about Duena’s work: https://www.duenablomstrom.com
About the Host
Duena Blomstrom — autistic/ADHD author of People Before Tech, Tech-Led Culture, Emotional Banking; creator of the Human Debt framework; and late-diagnosed researcher of workplace culture, psychological safety, and neurodiversity.
NeuroSpicy @ Work — Season 1, Episode 3. Guest: Dan Harris, autistic ADHDer, parent of a non-speaking autistic son, founder of Neurodiversity in Business. Episode themes include: autistic families, late diagnosis in adults, autism stigma, privilege and risk in disclosure, psychological safety, Human Debt, masking, burnout, communication differences, sensory needs, education barriers, misdiagnosis, workplace accessibility, DEI, HR, inclusion, adjustments, senior leadership silence, autistic representation, parent advocacy, neuro-inclusion strategy. Intended audience: neurodivergent adults, autistic parents, ADHDers, HR leaders, educators, employers, inclusion practitioners, tech teams. Host: Duena Blomstrom.
Want more conversations like this? New episodes of NeuroSpicy @ Work drop weekly.
Full archive + transcripts: https://neurospicyatwork.com
Duena’s research, books and Human Debt work: https://www.duenablomstrom.com
00:00 — Intros & why this conversation matters
02:12 — Autistic families & real-life ND parenting
05:01 — Why disclosure is still dangerous
08:35 — Masking, burnout & the emotional cost of “coping”
11:58 — Systems not built for us & what ND adults need next
📌 2026 Framework Update
This episode maps to the V9 canonical framework — Psychological Safety → Human Debt™ → Execution Integrity → Human Machine Intelligence™.
Human Debt™: https://duenablomstrom.com/concepts/human-debt
Apply it: EI Diagnostic
Books: duenablomstrom.com/books
Full framework: duenablomstrom.com/what-is-execution-integrity
In this episode of NeuroSpicy@Work, Duena talks with author, speaker, and autistic advocate Becca Lory Hector about the invisible forces shaping work for neurodivergent adults today. They explore why ableism is still embedded into everyday professional expectations, how generational differences influence ND identity, and why autistic adults often carry the emotional cost of “not quite fitting” into structures that were never designed for them.
Becca brings a grounded, honest perspective on ND adulthood: late discovery, burnout, unmasking, communication differences, workplace bias, and the push toward genuine inclusion rather than performative “awareness.” Together they break down what it really means to navigate work as an autistic adult in a culture still catching up.
What We Talk About
• Why ableism is still normalised in most workplaces
• Generational differences in understanding autism and ADHD
• The emotional and practical cost of masking
• Late diagnosis and rebuilding identity
• ND–NT communication differences
• Why ND people experience burnout earlier and harder
• Cultural resistance to unmasking and authenticity
• “Doing ND” vs “Performing professionalism”
• The shift from toxic productivity to humane expectations
Why This Matters
Ableism is often invisible — baked into job descriptions, expectations, communication norms, and “professionalism.” Understanding how ND adults of different generations experience these pressures is key to building workplaces where people can show up honestly without burning themselves down to appear “normal.”
Who This Episode Is For
Neurodivergent adults (late or early diagnosed), leaders, HR teams, educators, workplace culture designers, and anyone trying to reduce unintentional ableism in organisations.
Guest
Becca Lory Hector
Website: https://beccalory.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/beccaloryhector
🎧 Listen to the full podcast series:
https://feeds.transistor.fm/neurospicy-work
🧩 Take the NeuroSpicy Assessment:
https://amineurospicy.com
🌐 Learn more about the host:
https://www.duenablomstrom.com
📚 About the Host
Hosted by Duena Blomstrom — author of People Before Tech, creator of the Human Debt framework, and late-diagnosed autistic/ADHD founder.
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This episode explores ableism, generational differences, ND identity, autistic adulthood, masking, burnout, communication gaps, misalignment between ND and NT expectations, performance culture, psychological safety, and Human Debt.
Keywords: autism, ADHD, ND masking, late diagnosis, workplace ableism, generational differences, burnout, emotional labour, psychological safety, autistic adults, Human Debt.
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Questions This Episode Answers
• Why do ND adults experience workplace ableism even in “inclusive” environments?
• How do generational differences shape ND identity and disclosure?
• Why is masking so emotionally and physically exhausting?
• What makes late diagnosis so destabilising for adults?
• How do workplace norms reinforce ND burnout?
• What needs to change for ND adults to feel safe at work?
📌 2026 Framework Update
This episode maps to the V9 canonical framework — Psychological Safety → Human Debt™ → Execution Integrity → Human Machine Intelligence™.
Human Debt™: https://duenablomstrom.com/concepts/human-debt
Apply it: EI Diagnostic
Books: duenablomstrom.com/books
Full framework: duenablomstrom.com/what-is-execution-integrity
In this first episode of NeuroSpicy@Work, Duena sits down with Prof. Dr. Amanda Kirby — one of the most respected voices in neurodiversity, lived experience, and inclusive work design. Together they unpack what it actually feels like to disclose autism at work, why the modern workplace still struggles with ND identity, and how communication, fear, and outdated structures continue to hold people back.
Dr. Kirby brings clarity and depth to topics most organisations mishandle: the tension between authenticity and safety, the rise of late-diagnosed adults, and the emotional and practical realities of ND life in professional environments. This episode offers a grounded, honest look at why disclosure is such a risk for many — and what needs to change if workplaces want to stop bleeding talent and burning people out.
What We Talk About
Why This Matters
ND people are entering workplaces that were never built with them in mind — and many are burning out, masking heavily, or leaving altogether. This episode sets the stage for the entire series by naming the real issues: cultural fear, communication breakdowns, human debt, and a system that still doesn’t know how to treat ND workers with respect. Understanding these dynamics is key to building genuinely safe, functional teams.
Who This Episode Is For
Neurodivergent professionals, late-diagnosed adults, leaders, HR teams, educators, and anyone trying to build a more human-centred workplace.
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This episode explores neurodiversity at work through themes of disclosure, psychological safety, stigma, communication gaps, human debt, masking, late diagnosis, ND–NT dynamics, and workplace cultural adaptation.
Keywords: autistic identity, workplace disclosure, psychological safety, ND burnout, masking, lived experience, communication patterns, stigma, HR barriers, organisational fear, Human Debt.
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❓ Questions This Episode Answers
📌 2026 Framework Update
This episode maps to the V9 canonical framework — Psychological Safety → Human Debt™ → Execution Integrity → Human Machine Intelligence™.
Human Debt™: https://duenablomstrom.com/concepts/human-debt
Apply it: EI Diagnostic
Books: duenablomstrom.com/books
Full framework: duenablomstrom.com/what-is-execution-integrity
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