Never Thought We'd Be Here

Never Thought We'd Be Here

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  • Family Bonds Beyond Blood -- Meet Zosha & Theo

    In this episode of Never Thought We’d Be Here, host Maya Grobel is joined by Jen’s 14-year-old twins, Zosha and Theo.


    In this heartfelt interview, Zosha and Theo share their perspectives on embryo donation, family bonds, and navigating complex relationships. Their insights shed light on the emotional and social aspects of donor families, offering valuable lessons for understanding modern family structures.


    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Embryo Donation Perspectives

    02:13 Understanding Family Dynamics and Relationships

    04:44 The Concept of Siblinghood in Embryo Donation

    07:08 Meeting Eric: First Impressions and Connections

    09:32 Evolving Relationships Over Time

    12:06 Future Connections and Communication

    14:02 Proud of Our Story: Sharing Embryo Donation

    16:31 Navigating Conversations About Embryo Donation

    18:35 Advice for Other Children in Similar Situations


    Thank you for listening! To learn more about EM•POWER with Moxi or Moxi Matching, visit our ⁠⁠website⁠⁠.


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    27 min
  • Genetic Sibling Relationships & Unique Family Dynamics -- Meet Lainey

    In this episode of Never Thought We’d Be Here, host Maya Grobel is joined by Lainey, Gina’s 11-year old daughter!


    In this heartfelt conversation, Lainey shares her unique family story centered around embryo donation. She discusses her understanding of embryo donation, her connection with her sister cousin Grace, and the dynamics of their relationship. 


    Their conversation explores themes of identity, race, and the emotional aspects of family connections, including the challenges of saying goodbye and the pride Lainey feels about her family's story.


    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Lainey and Her Unique Family

    06:01 Connecting with Grace: A Sister Cousin

    14:02 Identity and Mixed Race Perspectives

    18:37 Reflections on Family Stories

    23:08 Advice for Kids with Genetic Siblings


    Thank you for listening! To learn more about EM•POWER with Moxi or Moxi Matching, visit our ⁠⁠website⁠⁠.


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    29 min
  • Navigating New Relationships in Embryo Donation -- Meet Loretta & Alexandra

    In this episode of Never Thought We’d Be Here, host Maya Grobel is joined by two recipients, Loretta and Alexandra.


    Loretta and Alexandra matched with the same embryo donors and are currently pregnant at the same time. In this conversation they share their stories that highlight the value and importance of the connection that directed embryo donation provides as well as how they have been navigating the new relationship they have with each other and their donors, how they conceptualize their unique extended family structure, and considerations around race and ethnicity as they each prepare to meet their babies very soon!


    Chapters:

    00:00 Introduction to Embryo Donation Stories

    02:11 Personal Journeys to Embryo Donation

    04:08 Finding the Right Donor Couple

    07:29 Navigating Relationships with Donors

    10:27 Building Connections and Communication

    16:19 Establishing a New Family Dynamic

    21:38 Navigating Family Dynamics with New Siblings

    24:00 Establishing Foundations: The Power of Communication

    26:32 Inclusive Language: Redefining Family Connections

    28:38 Flexibility in Family Definitions

    31:03 Pride in Family: Overcoming Societal Judgments

    34:07 Navigating Biracial Identity and Societal Perceptions

    36:48 Embracing the Unknown: The Journey of Parenthood

    42:49 Reflections on Unexpected Paths to Parenthood


    Thank you for listening! To learn more about EM•POWER with Moxi or Moxi Matching, visit our ⁠⁠website⁠⁠.


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    45 min
  • Building Relationships Through Embryo Donation -- Meet Genieve and Clare

    In this episode of 'Never Thought We'd Be Here', host Maya Grobel is joined by Genieve and Clare, Embryo Donor and Recipient. 


    This conversation explores the journey of embryo donation through the experiences of Genieve and Clare, who share their expectations, emotional challenges, and the evolving relationship between donor and recipient families. 


    Together they discuss the importance of communication, setting boundaries, and the joy of building a family through this unique process. Their dialogue highlights the significance of openness and honesty in navigating the complexities of embryo donation and the beautiful connections that can form as a result.


    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Embryo Donation Journey

    05:14 Building Relationships Through Communication

    10:40 Establishing Communication Ground Rules

    16:26 Reflections on the Journey and Future Plans

    23:10 The Dance of Co-Parenting

    31:33 Support Systems and Family Reactions


    Thank you for listening! To learn more about EM•POWER with Moxi or Moxi Matching, visit our ⁠⁠website⁠⁠.


    You can also check Clare out as she shares her story on the CBS evening news.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/embryo-donation-on-the-rise-families-connection/


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    41 min
  • An Embryo Donor Extraordinaire – Meet Jen

    In this episode of 'Never Thought We'd Be Here', host Maya Grobel is joined by Jen, a three-time embryo donor.


    In their conversation, Jen shares her unique journey as an embryo donor, discussing her motivations for donating embryos to multiple recipients simultaneously. She reflects on the emotional complexities of the donation process, the relationships formed with recipients, and how her identity has evolved through this experience. 


    Jen emphasizes the importance of open-mindedness and flexibility in navigating the challenges and joys of embryo donation, ultimately highlighting the positive connections that have emerged from her decision.


    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Embryo Donation Journey

    02:02 Motivations Behind Embryo Donation

    04:58 Deciding to Donate to Multiple Recipients

    06:58 Meeting the Recipients: Expectations vs. Reality

    13:23 Evolving Relationships with Recipients

    26:25 Identity as an Embryo Donor

    27:55 Reflections on the Donation Process


    Thank you for listening! To learn more about EM•POWER with Moxi or Moxi Matching, visit our ⁠⁠website⁠⁠.


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    30 min
  • The Importance of Understanding Your Family Building Options -- Meet Jessica

    In this episode of 'Never Thought We'd Be Here', host Maya Grobel is joined by Jessica, a parent via embryo donation with two very different journeys.


    In this conversation, Jessica shares her personal journey, discussing her initial experiences with infertility, the decision to pursue embryo donation, and the importance of genetic equity in family building. 


    Their conversation delves into the nuances of anonymity in donation, the emotional connections formed during the process, and the challenges of discussing origins with children. Jessica offers valuable advice for prospective parents considering embryo donation, emphasizing the importance of advocacy and the joy of parenthood.


    Chapters

    00:00 Embarking on the Embryo Donation Journey

    04:53 Understanding Genetic Equity in Family Building

    09:07 Navigating Anonymity and Connection in Donation

    11:43 The Experience of Directed Donation

    16:10 Discussing Origins with Children

    21:12 Advice for Prospective Parents on Embryo Donation


    Thank you for listening! To learn more about EM•POWER with Moxi or Moxi Matching, visit our ⁠⁠website⁠⁠.


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    28 min
  • The Journey of a Donor Conceived Person – Meet Jay

    In this episode of 'Never Thought We'd Be Here', host Maya Grobel is joined by Jay, a parent via embryo donation and a donor conceived person.


    In this conversation, Maya and Jay explore the multifaceted world of donor conception, focusing on Jay's personal journey as a donor-conceived individual and a parent through embryo donation. 


    They discuss the evolution of language and identity in donor conception, the importance of medical information, and the complexities of connecting with donor siblings. Jay shares insights on the matching process for embryo donation and the emotional dynamics involved in building relationships with donor families. The conversation emphasizes compassion and understanding in navigating the donor conception landscape.


    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Embryo Donation Perspectives

    02:48 Jay's Origin Story and Early Understanding

    07:15 The Journey of Discovery: Finding the Donor

    09:45 Connecting with Half-Siblings: A Unique Experience

    13:23 The Nuances of Genetics and Family Connections

    17:31 Embryo Donation Journey: Decision-Making Process

    20:56 Evolving Relationships with Donor Families

    24:20 Conceptualizing Family: Expanding Definitions

    26:58 The Importance of Language in Identity

    33:36 Final Thoughts on Compassion and Reform


    Thank you for listening! To learn more about EM•POWER with Moxi or Moxi Matching, visit our ⁠⁠website⁠⁠.


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    36 min
  • The Legal Landscape of Embryo Donation -- Meet Amanda

    In this episode of 'Never Thought We'd Be Here', host Maya Grobel is joined by Family Formation Attorney, Amanda Troxler. As a disclaimer, nothing in this episode should be considered legal advice.In this conversation, Maya and Amanda delve into the intricate world of embryo donation, exploring the legal aspects, personal experiences, and the importance of relationships in this unique field.


    Amanda shares her journey into family formation law, emphasizing the significance of understanding the emotional and personal dimensions of legal contracts. They discuss the essential elements of embryo donation agreements, including consent, communication, and future contact expectations.


    Their conversation highlights the varying state laws regarding embryo disposition and the necessity of having independent legal representation to ensure that all parties feel heard and supported. Ultimately, the discussion underscores the importance of viewing embryo donation as a relationship rather than just a legal transaction, fostering a collaborative and open-minded approach to family formation.


    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Embryo Donation and Legal Perspectives

    02:12 Amanda's Journey into Reproductive Law

    04:44 Understanding Embryo Donation Contracts

    08:38 Consent and Redonation of Embryos

    10:26 Embryo Disposition After Use

    14:34 State Laws and Legal Definitions

    16:52 Anonymous vs. Directed Donation

    18:25 The Importance of Legal Representation

    21:13 Preparing for Legal Meetings

    23:03 Advice for Embryo Donation Participants

    24:24 Challenges in Embryo Donation Relationships

    26:47 The Beauty of Embryo Donation Relationships


    Thank you for listening! To learn more about EM•POWER with Moxi or Moxi Matching, visit our ⁠⁠website⁠⁠.


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    29 min
  • Exploring the World of Embryology – Meet Alease

    In this episode of 'Never Thought We'd Be Here', host Maya Grobel is joined by Embryologist, Alease Barnes, better known as Alease the Embryologist on Social Media.


    In this conversation, Maya and Alease delve into the intricate world of embryology, focusing on embryo donation and the role of embryologists. 


    Alease shares her journey into the field, the importance of education in reproductive health, and the nuances of embryo grading and PGT testing. They discuss the evolving landscape of embryo donation, the significance of patient expectations, and the future of technology in embryology. Their conversation emphasizes the need for informed decision-making for both donors and recipients, highlighting the complexities and emotional aspects of the process.


    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Embryology and Donation

    06:45 The Role of the Embryologist

    11:46 Understanding PGT Testing

    18:31 Embryo Grading and Its Implications

    25:33 Navigating the Landscape of Embryo Donation

    29:41 Embryo Freezing and Success Rates

    34:48 Patient Perspectives on Embryo Donation

    36:31 Counseling Donors on Disposition Options

    39:52 Understanding Embryo Quality and Matching

    42:34 Exploring Mosaic and Early Stage Embryos

    51:04 Future of Embryology and Technology


    Thank you for listening! To learn more about EM•POWER with Moxi or Moxi Matching, visit our ⁠⁠website⁠⁠.


    Want to work with Alease? Learn more at https://aleasetheembryologist.com/ and follow Alease on IG and TikTok @alease_the_embryologist


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    52 min
  • Understanding Your Unique Family Story -- Meet Mika

    In the Season 2 premier of 'Never Thought We'd Be Here', host Maya Grobel is joined by her husband Noah, and their daughter, Mika.


    In this heartfelt conversation, they discuss the journey of their family through embryo donation. Mika shares her understanding of her unique story, the importance of genetics, and how she navigates conversations about her origins with friends.


    As a family, they reflect on the significance of open communication, the nature versus nurture debate, and the emotional connections that define family beyond genetics. They also address the normalization of different family structures and offer advice to other donor-conceived children.


    Chapters:

    00:00 Introduction to Embryo Donation

    02:31 Understanding Family Dynamics

    04:49 Genetics and Identity

    08:14 Curiosity About Donor Helpers

    11:06 The Concept of Nature vs. Nurture

    14:17 Reflections on Family Differences

    16:00 The Journey to Parenthood

    18:55 The Importance of Connection

    21:08 The Role of Communication

    24:05 Normalizing Different Family Structures

    25:44 Advice for Other Kids and Parents

    27:18 Connecting with Donor Families


    Thank you for listening! To learn more about EM•POWER with Moxi or Moxi Matching, visit our website.


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    26 min

About Never Thought We'd Be Here

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Join Maya Grobel, psychotherapist, parent via embryo donation, and EM•POWER with Moxi/Moxi Matching co-founder, as she talks with guests about all things embryo donation. Hear real stories from embryo…

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