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Meanwhile on Indulgence Gospel:Corinne and I are asking: Is breaking up with your phone a diet?
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Mary Mahoney, who also goes by Mimi, is a historian and writer who wrote Dolls of Our Lives: Why We Can't Quit American Girl. She also makes an incredible podcast and newsletter called Landline that gives pop culture some context. It's like a group text for people who love footnotes or the answer to the question: why can't history feel more like Us Weekly?
Mary joined me to talk about Dolly Parton's relationship with her body and beauty standards, how we locate her as a feminist, and her incredible legacy. We go down so many fascinating rabbit holes —this is one of my favorite episodes ever!BUTTER & LINKS
Mary's Dolly tribute essay
Dolly's 1978 Playboy interview
Gloria Steinem's event with Miss Piggy at the Brooklyn Museum in 2015
Reese Witherspoon's Dolly Parton interview
1984 Interview Magazine interview
@Culture Study's Dolly Parton Syllabus
Billionaires who want to live forever
Mary's Butter: Ms. Rachel (featuring I Love A Rainbow) & Dolly singing Johnny Cash's I Still Miss Someone.
Virginia's Butter: Dolly singing The Harper Valley PTA.
EPISODE CREDITS
Co-hosts: Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay.
Producer: Kim Baldwin.
Logo design: Deanna Lowe.
Theme Song: Farideh.
Video Editor: Elizabeth Ayiku
Audio Engineer: Tommy Harron
Follow us on social!
Virginia is on Instagram and Threads as @v_solesmith and on Bluesky at @virginiasolesmith.
Corinne is on Instagram at @selfiefay, on Bluesky at @corinnefay and on Patreon at Big Undies.
Support the Me Little Me Foundation, a virtual food pantry supporting multiply marginalized folks recovering from eating disorders.
Thanks for listening and supporting anti-diet, body liberation journalism!
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Meet today's guest!Amy Palanjian is the creator of Yummy Toddler Food and the author of the New York Times bestselling cookbook, Dinnertime SOS. Amy has built YTF as a resource to provide reassurance and easy recipes to families with little kids. Because she knows that feeding kids is hard and our recipes (and the advice we follow) should be easy. She is an advocate for taking shortcuts in the kitchen, helping moms remember to feed themselves, and empowering kids to have agency at the table. She lives in Central PA with her three kids (and many plants).
Amy joined us to talk about picky eating, how trends and conversations are shaped by social media, plus the rise of parent-shaming content on social media. And more! It's a good one, you guys.BUTTER & LINKSSHOP:
Virginia's Butter: Giant coloring sheets and good markers
Corinne's Butter: Whirley Pop popcorn maker
Amy's Butter: Leaving your house via joining a gym
READ/WATCH:
Please Stop Asking Michael Pollan How to Feed Kids.
Michael Pollan on 60 Minutes reel
Michael Pollan, “We make time for the things we value” reel
The Economist picky eaters reel
https://www.patreon.com/virginiasolesmith/posts/amy-palanjian-170815324
EPISODE CREDITS
Co-hosts: Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay.
Producer: Kim Baldwin.
Logo design: Deanna Lowe.
Theme Song: Farideh.
Video Editor: Elizabeth Ayiku
Audio Engineer: Tommy Harron
Follow us on social!
Virginia is on Instagram and Threads as @v_solesmith and on Bluesky at @virginiasolesmith.
Corinne is on Instagram at @selfiefay, on Bluesky at @corinnefay and on Patreon at Big Undies.
Support the Me Little Me Foundation, a virtual food pantry supporting multiply marginalized folks recovering from eating disorders.
Thanks for listening and supporting anti-diet, body liberation journalism!
Indulgence Gospel segments are for paid subscribers, who also get transcripts and commenting privileges. Don't miss out — join us here!
Jen Ponton is an actor and writer whose work explores the intersection of fatness, representation, and storytelling. Over the past 15 years, she's built a career with credits including Dietland, Not Suitable for Work, 30 Rock, Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, and the recent off-Broadway run of her solo show, Sugarcoated. She currently stars in the independent feature Resentment, where she plays a confident, sensual, whipsmart leading woman whose body is neither the punchline nor the plot.
Jen joined us to talk about where the fatphobia shows up in Hollywood, how GLP-1s are changing the game, and the major TV hit that would only cast her if she agreed to a weight loss contract. And more! It's a good one, you guys.BUTTER & LINKSSHOP:
Virginia's Butter: Birkenstock Boston Big Buckle clogs
Corinne's Butter: Blundstone clogs
Jen's Butter: Don't Buy What I'm Selling: On Breaking Up with Advertising and Finally Learning to Love My Whole, Fat Self by Lu Chekowsky
READ:
“Not Your Sad Fat Lady” via Jen's Substack
Jen's one-woman show Sugarcoated
https://www.patreon.com/virginiasolesmith/posts/episode-264-jen-170161722
EPISODE CREDITS
Co-hosts: Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay.
Producer: Kim Baldwin.
Logo design: Deanna Lowe.
Theme Song: Farideh.
Video Editor: Elizabeth Ayiku
Audio Engineer: Tommy Harron
Follow us on social!
Virginia is on Instagram and Threads as @v_solesmith and on Bluesky at @virginiasolesmith.
Corinne is on Instagram at @selfiefay, on Bluesky at @corinnefay and on Patreon at Big Undies.
Support the Me Little Me Foundation, a virtual food pantry supporting multiply marginalized folks recovering from eating disorders.
Thanks for listening and supporting anti-diet, body liberation journalism!
Indulgence Gospel segments are for paid subscribers, who also get transcripts and commenting privileges. Don't miss out — join us here!
As a Black, infinifat, and disabled woman, Angel's lived experiences inform her work, advocacy, and commitment to building community. In addition to leading ASDAH, Angel is the founder of Sacred Space for Fat Bodies and serves on the board of the Me Little Me Foundation.
Angel previously joined us on the podcast in 2024 to talk about how ASDAH has been working to evolve the principles of Health At Every Size, or HAES, which are foundational to the fat liberation movement.
HAES is the framework that helps so many of us start to realize we can untangle weight and health, to know we can pursue health in the body we have right now — and that we deserve a healthcare system that meets us where we are, and treats us with dignity and respect. ASDAH is on the front lines of working with healthcare providers to understand that.
And right now, ASDAH really needs our help.In order to stay operational, ASDAH needs to raise $15,000 by the end of September.
There are over 50,000 of you reading this email, and we're already 75 percent of the way there — so let's crush that goal and help ASDAH continue to do the vital work they do on behalf of fat and disabled folks everywhere — so click the link in your episode description to support ASDAH today.
I'm matching the first $5,000 we raised. Join us here!BUTTER & LINKS
Virginia's Butter: This episode of Code Switch: "Freedom" from fatness: Why GLP-1s go after Black bodies
Angel's Butters: TikTok recipes (specifically tuna and rice with furikake) and rest
Fearing the Black Body by Sabrina Strings
Ragen Chastain's newsletter
ASDAH event on September 25 called Beyond BMI
Belly of the Beast by Da'Shaun L. Harrison
https://www.patreon.com/virginiasolesmith/posts/episode-263-tk-169518176
EPISODE CREDITS
Co-hosts: Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay.
Producer: Kim Baldwin.
Logo design: Deanna Lowe.
Theme Song: Farideh.
Video Editor: Elizabeth Ayiku
Audio Engineer: Tommy Harron
Follow us on social!
Virginia is on Instagram and Threads as @v_solesmith and on Bluesky at @virginiasolesmith.
Corinne is on Instagram at @selfiefay, on Bluesky at @corinnefay and on Patreon at Big Undies.
Support the Me Little Me Foundation, a virtual food pantry supporting multiply marginalized folks recovering from eating disorders.
Thanks for listening and supporting anti-diet, body liberation journalism!
Bryan Johnson is a person I did not know existed, but Corinne says is the most famous toxic man trying to live forever through diet culture and technology. Wish I knew less! But he's a major driving force in diet culture right now, so we're getting into:
⭐️ What is a "Blood Boy" and who needs one?
⭐️ Why Bryan tweets his son's nightly erection data.
⭐️ A girlfriend who has the "top 1% of all vaginas" (and how us non-elite vaginas should feel about that).
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And on Indulgence Gospel!Corinne and I are discussing credit cards: Do we love them? Fear them? And are credit card points a diet? (If so, Virginia is ON IT.)Indulgence Gospel segments are for paid subscribers, who also get transcripts and commenting privileges. Don't miss out — join us here!
If you're listening, Indulgence Gospel starts at the timestamp 39:20! You can find an AI-generated transcript of this segment if you’re following us on Apple or Spotify!
BUTTER & LINKSVirginia's Butter: foam roller
Corinne's Butter: Kin by Tayari Jones
The Wall Street Journal Instagram post
Bryan Johnson's "Don't Die Protocol"
Famished by Anna Rollins and Tia Leving's memoir
New York Times (gift link): He Said He Was the World’s Healthiest Man. Then Came a Stunning Diagnosis.
The Cut: Bryan Johnson Is Dating His Co-founder
Info on his girlfriend's vaginal microbiome that he tweeted.
The Wall Street Journal: Bryan Johnson’s Girlfriend Wants to Share Her Body With the World
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Housekeeping note: We've changed things up a bit to solve some behind-the-scenes tech issues, so here's how to get your Burnt Toast fix:
https://www.patreon.com/virginiasolesmith/posts/bryan-johnson-is-168956631
EPISODE CREDITS
Co-hosts: Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay.
Producer: Kim Baldwin.
Logo design: Deanna Lowe.
Theme Song: Farideh.
Video Editor: Elizabeth Ayiku
Audio Engineer: Tommy Harron
Follow us on social!
Virginia is on Instagram and Threads as @v_solesmith and on Bluesky at @virginiasolesmith.
Corinne is on Instagram at @selfiefay, on Bluesky at @corinnefay and on Patreon at Big Undies.
Support the Me Little Me Foundation, a virtual food pantry supporting multiply marginalized folks recovering from eating disorders.
Thanks for listening and supporting anti-diet, body liberation journalism!
Zoë is an internationally recognized therapist, speaker, and content creator who helps people feel more at home in their bodies. She is the founder of Body-Positive Therapy NYC, a group practice specializing in the treatment of eating disorders, and the creator of the bestselling Substack Body-Positive Home. Her work reaches more than 100,000 caregivers, educators, clinicians, and adults learning how to nurture body image resilience in the next generation while transforming their own relationships with food and their bodies along the way.
Zoë joined me to chat about:
⭐️ What you can do around the house to show your kids that your home is safe for all bodies.
⭐️ How we're preparing for back to school season—especially clothes shopping!
⭐️ A listener question from the Anti-Diet Parenting chat that sums up so many of the struggles that so many of us have as we're parenting in the abyss that is diet culture.
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FREE LISTENERS can find this episode on Apple, Spotify, YouTube or the podcast player of your choice.
PAID SUBSCRIBERS can listen right here on Patreon, or add your member-only feed to the podcast player of your choice.
Paid subscribers also get transcripts, commenting privileges, and our bonus (audio only!) Indulgence Gospel segment. This week Corinne and I will be answering another listener question from the Burnt Toast Anti-Diet Parenting chat. This person needs to know what to do about a diety ex-husband. Don't miss out — join us here!
Indulgence Gospel segments get recorded too close to drop day to have transcripts — but you can find an AI-generated transcript if you’re following us on Apple or Spotify! If you're listening, Indulgence Gospel starts at the timestamp 48:00.
Virginia's Butter: Turning sidewalk chalk into paint by bashing it up with rocks and mixing it with water.
Zoë's Butter: Ina Garten's cream cheese frosting, the anticipation of a girls trip, organizing art supplies and finding a surprise treat from her daughter.
"Can we take GLP1s in a Body-Positive Home? And other balancing act questions..." (Substack)
Zoë's reel about putting a NWFMBA bag in your kids' closet.
Barefoot Contessa flag cake recipe
https://www.patreon.com/virginiasolesmith/posts/episode-261-zoe-164981251
EPISODE CREDITS
Co-hosts: Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay.
Producer: Kim Baldwin.
Logo design: Deanna Lowe.
Theme Song: Farideh.
Video Editor: Elizabeth Ayiku
Audio Engineer: Tommy Harron
Follow us on social!
Virginia is on Instagram and Threads as @v_solesmith and on Bluesky at @virginiasolesmith.
Corinne is on Instagram at @selfiefay, on Bluesky at @corinnefay and on Patreon at Big Undies.
Support the Me Little Me Foundation, a virtual food pantry supporting multiply marginalized folks recovering from eating disorders.
Thanks for listening and supporting anti-diet, body liberation journalism!
Cole is an Emmy Award-winning television journalist and author of What's Eating Us: Women, Food, and the Epidemic of Body Anxiety.
Cole joined us as an eating disorder expert, and as a fellow woman in perimenopause who is reeling from all the diet culture nonsense coming for us in this stage of life. Cole will help us answer: Is menopause a diet? And we’ll also talk about everyone’s favorite menopause influencer, Dr. Mary Claire Haver. Is SHE a diet?
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FREE LISTENERS can find this episode on Apple, Spotify, YouTube or the podcast player of your choice.
PAID SUBSCRIBERS can listen right here on Patreon, or add your member-only feed to the podcast player of your choice.
Paid subscribers also get transcripts, commenting privileges, and our bonus (audio only!) Indulgence Gospel segment.
This week Corinne and I are answering your fat fashion questions! How to manage a wardrobe to fit weight fluctuations? Is it getting harder to shop as brands eliminate their plus size lines? Skinny jeans, yay or nay? Don't miss out — join us here!
Indulgence Gospel segments get recorded too close to drop day to have transcripts — but you can find an AI-generated transcript if you’re following us on Apple or Spotify! If you're listening, Indulgence Gospel starts at the timestamp 35:09.
Virginia's Butter: a plunge pool
Cole's Butter: her friend Catherine’s swimming pool
One last thing! You'll want to read What's Eating Us: Women, Food, and the Epidemic of Body Anxiety after hearing this conversation. If you order it from my local independent bookstore, Split Rock Books, you can take 10% off if you have also ordered a copy of my book Fat Talk from them. Go to Split Rock Books and use the code "FATTALK" at checkout.
https://www.patreon.com/virginiasolesmith/posts/is-menopause-164981198
EPISODE CREDITS
Co-hosts: Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay.
Producer: Kim Baldwin.
Logo design: Deanna Lowe.
Theme Song: Farideh.
Video Editor: Elizabeth Ayiku
Audio Engineer: Tommy Harron
Follow us on social!
Virginia is on Instagram and Threads as @v_solesmith and on Bluesky at @virginiasolesmith.
Corinne is on Instagram at @selfiefay, on Bluesky at @corinnefay and on Patreon at Big Undies.
Support the Me Little Me Foundation, a virtual food pantry supporting multiply marginalized folks recovering from eating disorders.
Thanks for listening and supporting anti-diet, body liberation journalism!
Savala is a writer, public speaker and professor at UC Berkeley. Her brand new book, Good Woman: A Reckoning is out now. Her first book, Don’t Let It Get You Down: Essays on Race, Gender and the Body, was shortlisted for the William Saroyan Prize and celebrated as a “standout collection” by the New York Times. Savala's writing has been featured in Vogue, Harper’s Magazine, the New York Times, NPR, TIME and more.
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FREE LISTENERS can find this episode on Apple, Spotify, YouTube or the podcast player of your choice.
PAID SUBSCRIBERS can listen right here on Patreon, or add your member-only feed to the podcast player of your choice.
Paid subscribers also get transcripts, commenting privileges, and our bonus (audio only!) Indulgence Gospel segment. This week Corinne and I are talking about peptides, bro science and I’m sorry to say, Clavicular, the 20-year-old looksmaxxer extraordinaire. Don't miss out — join us here!
If you're listening, Indulgence Gospel starts at the timestamp 31:30. You can read the transcript from our original Peptide Bros episode here. You can also find an AI-generated transcript if you’re following us on Apple or Spotify!
Virginia's Butter: Heated Rivalry, the show and the books
Savala's Butter: being around water, and extremely trashy reality TV that features a love story
One last thing! If you order Good Woman from my local independent bookstore, Split Rock Books, you can take 10% off if you have also ordered a copy of my book Fat Talk from them. Go to Split Rock Books and use the code "fat talk" at checkout.
https://www.patreon.com/virginiasolesmith/posts/double-ep-but-164981135
EPISODE CREDITS
Co-hosts: Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay.
Producer: Kim Baldwin.
Logo design: Deanna Lowe.
Theme Song: Farideh.
Video Editor: Elizabeth Ayiku
Audio Engineer: Tommy Harron
Follow us on social!
Virginia is on Instagram and Threads as @v_solesmith and on Bluesky at @virginiasolesmith.
Corinne is on Instagram at @selfiefay, on Bluesky at @corinnefay and on Patreon at Big Undies.
Support the Me Little Me Foundation, a virtual food pantry supporting multiply marginalized folks recovering from eating disorders.
Thanks for listening and supporting anti-diet, body liberation journalism!
Ash is also the author of the book, Power On: Managing Screen Time to Benefit the Whole Family. Ash helps caregivers navigate screen time boundaries, to ensure it benefits the whole family. I turn to Ash’s work whenever I am feeling panicked about our family’s relationship with screen time — which happens every summer around this time, so it seems like a good moment to revisit this conversation!
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FREE LISTENERS can find this episode on Apple, Spotify, YouTube or the podcast player of your choice.
PAID SUBSCRIBERS can listen right here on Patreon, or add your member-only feed to the podcast player of your choice.
Paid subscribers also get transcripts, commenting privileges, and our bonus (audio only!) Indulgence Gospel segment. This week Corinne and I will be talking about plus size fashion influencer and body acceptance advocate Katie Sturino — who teamed up with WeightWatchers. What happened there? Where is the line between body liberation activism and capitalism? Don't miss out — join us here!
If you're listening, Indulgence Gospel starts at the timestamp 50:24. You can read the transcript from Katie Sturino's original episode here. You can also find an AI-generated transcript if you’re following us on Apple or Spotify!
Virginia's Butter: A floof
Ash's Butter: A Mamachari bicycle
One last thing! You'll want to read Power On: Managing Screen Time to Benefit the Whole Family after hearing this conversation. If you order it from my local independent bookstore, Split Rock Books, you can take 10% off if you have also ordered a copy of my book Fat Talk from them. Go to Split Rock Books and use the code "FATTALK" at checkout.
https://www.patreon.com/virginiasolesmith/posts/double-ep-screen-164981019
EPISODE CREDITS
Co-hosts: Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay.
Producer: Kim Baldwin.
Logo design: Deanna Lowe.
Theme Song: Farideh.
Video Editor: Elizabeth Ayiku
Audio Engineer: Tommy Harron
Follow us on social!
Virginia is on Instagram and Threads as @v_solesmith and on Bluesky at @virginiasolesmith.
Corinne is on Instagram at @selfiefay, on Bluesky at @corinnefay and on Patreon at Big Undies.
Support the Me Little Me Foundation, a virtual food pantry supporting multiply marginalized folks recovering from eating disorders.
Thanks for listening and supporting anti-diet, body liberation journalism!
Lindy is the author of four books, The New York Times bestselling memoir, Shrill, as well as the essay collections, The Witches Are Coming and Shit, Actually, and her brand new memoir Adult Braces, out now. Lindy is the co-host of the comedy podcast, Text Me Back!!! and the author of the newsletter Butt News. Lindy was a writer and executive producer on Shrill, the Hulu comedy adapted from her memoir, and she co-wrote and produced the independent feature film, Thin Skin.
Today we are giving you the second half of our episode with Lindy, which originally ran as a paywalled episode. When Adult Braces came out earlier this year, it just about broke the Internet with discourse around Lindy’s marriage, body, and so much more.
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FREE LISTENERS can find this episode on Apple, Spotify, YouTube or the podcast player of your choice.
PAID SUBSCRIBERS can listen right here on Patreon, or add your member-only feed to the podcast player of your choice.
Paid subscribers also get transcripts, commenting privileges, and our bonus (audio only!) Indulgence Gospel segment.
This week Corinne and I are answering your fat fashion questions! How are we doing layers in perimenopause? Best ways to combat chafing and chub rub? What are we doing about pants? Don't miss out — join us here!
Indulgence Gospel segments get recorded too close to drop day to have transcripts — but you can find an AI-generated transcript if you’re following us on Apple or Spotify! If you're listening, Indulgence Gospel starts at the timestamp 30:25.
Virginia's Butter: Don Chilio chili crisp
Lindy's Butter: quesadillas and Shirley Temples
One last thing! You will want to read Adult Braces after hearing this conversation. If you order it from my local independent bookstore, Split Rock Books, you can take 10% off if you have also ordered a copy of my book Fat Talk from them. Go to Split Rock Books and use the code "FATTALK" at checkout.
https://www.patreon.com/virginiasolesmith/posts/lindy-wests-life-164980900
EPISODE CREDITS
Co-hosts: Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay.
Producer: Kim Baldwin.
Logo design: Deanna Lowe.
Theme Song: Farideh.
Video Editor: Elizabeth Ayiku
Audio Engineer: Tommy Harron
Follow us on social!
Virginia is on Instagram and Threads as @v_solesmith and on Bluesky at @virginiasolesmith.
Corinne is on Instagram at @selfiefay, on Bluesky at @corinnefay and on Patreon at Big Undies.
Support the Me Little Me Foundation, a virtual food pantry supporting multiply marginalized folks recovering from eating disorders.
Thanks for listening and supporting anti-diet, body liberation journalism!
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