Anthony and Laurie welcome creature designer Neville Page to the podcast this week. Neville has designed aliens and creatures for all three of the J.J. Abrams Star Trek movies, Discovery, and Picard, not to mention a few little movies like Avatar, Cloverfield, Super 8, and more—and he has a new Kickstarter project: a book that that’s both a personal and practical field guide for anyone building a career in the creative arts. Neville talks about how he got started in his career, digs into the details on some of his Star Trek creatures like The Torchbearer, Saru, and Krall, describes the challenges of tackling legacy Star Trek aliens, and much more.