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Happy New Year! We've got a couple of updates and announcements from Carolyn, plus, we're sharing an episode that many of you will be interested in from friend of the pod Jess Rothschild.

On this episode of Hot Takes and Deep Dives, Jess is joined by THE L WORD creator and show-runner Ilene Chaiken! Ilene discusses running Aaron Spelling's production company, her real-life version of The Planet, the head of Showtime wanting to cast Leisha Hailey as Shane, Jennifer Beals choosing Laurel Holloman as Tina, and Mia Kirshner's brilliant improv as Jenny. Also discussed: Ilene's original plan for Bette & Tina, contributions to Gen Q, is Gen Q canon, Sepideh Moafi as Gigi, the mistreatment of Daniel Sea (Max) on set, Holland Taylor as Peggy Peabody and a LOT more! Subscribe to her pod here.

As a reminder, you can listen to past Dyking Off Topic episodes with Carolyn and Melody on our Patreon for $5/month.

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