New Energy Nexus

This episode was recorded in Shanghai, China back in December 2019. Kaikai (KK) Yang is the founder and CEO of Dipole Tech, a startup that leverages blockchain technology to create microgrids, or the local generation and consumption of renewable energy. Learn about how KK went from jazz musician to energy software engineer and entrepreneur. We delve into the impact of low electricity prices in China – how the prices may hinder the growth of rooftop solar, the importance of government renewable energy subsidies, and the promise of blockchain for the low carbon energy transition.
这期播客于2019年12月在中国上海录制。杨凯凯（Kaikai Yang）是Dipole Tech的创始人兼首席执行官。这家初创公司利用区块链技术创建了微电网，即可再生能源的本地发电和消费。跟随访谈，你将了解凯凯如何从爵士音乐家变成能源软件工程师和企业家。我们深入探讨了中国低电价的影响——电价是如何阻碍屋顶太阳能的发展，政府可再生能源补贴的重要性，以及区块链对低碳能源转型的承诺。

[Recorded on August 8, 2020] Li Xia (Susan) grew up poor in Harbin, a city located in Northeast China. She has an amazing story traveling from the north to the south of China, applying the skills she gained during her journey to develop clean energy solutions for the world’s poor, or bottom of the pyramid (BOP), at Shenzhen Power Solutions. Join us to find out about the most promising markets for solar lighting, how residential clean energy solutions do make an impact on economic outcomes for families, and the significance of replacing kerosene lamps with zero emissions lighting sources.
【2020年8月8日录制】李霞（Susan Li）在中国东北的哈尔滨长大。她在深圳诚信诺电力解决方案有限公司（Shenzhen Power solutions）运用她在为世界上的贫困人口（BOP）开发清洁能源解决方案过程中获得的技能，从中国的北方到南方，讲述了一个令人惊叹的故事。与我们一起了解最有前途的太阳能照明市场，住宅清洁能源解决方案如何对家庭经济成果产生影响，用零排放照明源取代煤油灯的重要性以及低碳生态创新中的“女性领导力”。

[Recorded on July 31, 2020] If you listen to this episode while eating, consider a plant-based meal. Join us as we explore the current market for plant-based meat alternatives adapted to the Chinese palate. Shuman Liu, Research & Development Director at Starfield, takes us through the origin of China’s “Beyond Meat” equivalent. Shuman, a trained sociologist and anthropologist, became vegetarian while in Hong Kong and has made it her life mission to promote healthy and eco-friendly diets. Learn about Starfield’s current product line-up and expansion strategy, from selling to Western brands like KFC to Chinese brands like XiBei, to the types of plant proteins being used. Starfield is currently developing chicken analogs and researching new plant proteins like chickpea and spirulina.
【2020年7月31日录制】如果你听这期节目时正准备用餐，那你可以考虑吃一顿素食——因为我们将探索适合中国人口味的植物性肉类替代品的市场。Starfield研发总监刘抒曼在访谈中带我们了解了中国“人造肉”产品的起源。抒曼是一名受过严格培训的社会学家和人类学家，在香港时成为了素食者，并把推广健康和环保饮食作为自己的人生使命。了解Starfield目前的产品线和扩张策略，从销售给西方品牌如肯德基到中国品牌如西贝，再到所使用的植物蛋白类型。Starfield目前正在开发鸡肉类似物，并研究新的植物蛋白，如鹰嘴豆和螺旋藻。

[Recorded on July 25, 2020] Join us as we learn about Yuki Yu’s story starting Energy Iceberg, a research firm providing in-depth coverage of the entire Chinese energy system. Uncover how Energy Iceberg is, according to Yuki, solving the “massive knowledge gap between the outside world and China” when it comes to the electricity system and enabling environment. Often, if there are no international suppliers or investors involved in China-based energy and infrastructure deals, foreign media are simply not that interested. That’s why we were so excited to speak with Yuki! We spend some time on the electricity market (including the 五大四小), coal, and offshore wind.
【2020年7月25日录制】跟随访谈，一起来了解Yuki Yu创立Energy Iceberg背后的故事。Energy Iceberg是一家对整个中国能源系统进行研究和深入报道的机构。Yuki认为，揭开能源冰山的奥秘，就可以解决“中国与外部世界在电力系统和环境改变方面的巨大知识鸿沟”。通常来说，如果没有国际供应商或投资者参与，外国媒体不会对中国的能源和基础设施建设那么感兴趣。这就是为什么我们很高兴能和Yuki进行这一次的访谈，来对电力市场（包括五大四小）、煤炭和海上风力等话题进行深入探索。

Background information for the benefit of listeners:
背景信息：

Generation Companies (Big 5)
五大电力公司

中国华能集团公司 – China Huaneng Group Corporation
中国大唐集团公司 – China Datang Corporation
中国华电集团公司 – China Huadian Corporation
中国国电集团公司 – China Guodian Corporation
中国电力投资集团公司 – China Power Investment Corporation

Generation Companies (Smaller 4)
四小电力公司

国投电力公司 – SDIC Power Corporation
国华电力公司 – Guohua Power Company
华润电力公司 – China Resources Power Company
中广核集团有限公司 – China Guangdong Nuclear Power Group Co., Ltd.

Grid Companies (Big 2)
两大电网公司

国家电网公司 – State Grid Corporation
中国南方电网有限责任公司 – China Southern Power Grid Co., Ltd.

Andrew (张天隆) and Marilyn (韦玛丽) present China Cleantech 101 – what the podcast is all about, how it came to be, and a few episode highlights from the first series.
“中国低碳生态创新”播客由Andrew 张天隆和Marilyn 韦玛丽呈现 - 在这一集中你将了解到整个播客所讨论关心的话题是什么，中国的清洁能源科技创新是怎么发生的以及该播客第一季中的一些精彩片段。