Guests:

Chief James Gerace is a 25-year veteran of the Colonie Police Department and an FBI National Academy graduate. A certified police trainer and speaker, he specializes in crisis intervention and using learning science to improve training outcomes. He currently serves on the National Alliance on Mental Illness NYS Criminal Justice Committee and is a sought-after presenter on mental health topics.  He can be reached at [email protected]

Warren Hayashi, MD, EMT-P, is an Assistant Professor of Emergency Medicine and EMS at Albany Medical College, as well as a Fellow of Resuscitation & Emergency Critical Care. He is board certified in both Emergency Medicine and EMS. In addition, he is a paramedic with more than 20 years of field experience. He works closely with multiple local, state and federal law enforcement agencies.

Dr. Hayashi is the EMS Medical Director for Rensselaer County, NY, several LifeNet of New York bases, as well as multiple other EMS agencies and fire departments. He is the Assistant Medical Director for Colonie EMS and is a Tactical Physician for Colonie Police Department’s Special Services Team. He also serves as a Medical Team Manager for New York Task Force 2.

Supplemental Reading:

Gerace, J. J., & Dailey, M. W. (2023). Safe restraint of agitated patients. FBI Law Enforcement Bulletin.

https://leb.fbi.gov/articles/additional-articles/police-practice-safe-restraint-of-agitated-patients

Gonin, P., Beysard, N., Yersin, B., & Carron, P. N. (2018). Excited delirium: A systematic review. Academic Emergency Medicine, 25(5), 552- 565.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/acem.13330

Levy, M. K. (2024). Consensus statement of National Association of EMS Physicians International Association of Fire Chiefs and International Association of Chiefs of Police: Best Practices for Collaboration Between Law Enforcement and Emergency Medical Services During Acute Behavioral Emergencies. Prehospital Emergency Care, 28(8), 1058-1062.    

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/10.1080/10903127.2024.2402530

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Some Problems with 'Complacency':

1. It is a surface level overgeneralization: If it explains everything then it really doesn't explain anything. 
2. It focuses on the individual and misses the systemic influences for bad outcomes. 
3. It frames undesirable outcomes as an individual moral choice. 
4. It discounts the role and vulnerabilities of expertise. 
5. It is a hindsight attribution. 
6. It biases investigations and provides a false stopping point. 

Supplemental Reading:

Desmond, M. (2007). On the Fireline: Living and Dying with Wildland Firefighters. The University of Chicago Press.

https://www.amazon.com/Fireline-Firefighters-Fieldwork-Encounters-Discoveries/dp/0226144097

Moray, N., & Inagaki, T. (2000). Attention and complacency. Theoretical Issues in Ergonomics Science, 1(4), 354-365.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/14639220052399159


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Guest:

Chief Liam Duggan began his career in 1997 with the Burnsville (MN) Police Department before being hired by the St. Paul Police Department 2011 and now serves as Chief of Police for the metro area suburb of Prior Lake. Chief Duggan has served in leadership roles for investigations, patrol, vice/narcotics, SWAT, undercover operations, and training.

Chief Duggan has a BS in Law Enforcement, is a graduate of the Northwestern School of Staff and Command and has just received completed his graduate degree in Human Factors and Systems Safety as the only active police officer in the world to graduate from the program.

He serves on the board of Advisors for the National Law Enforcement Firearms Instructors Association and just completed his service as the long-time Director of Training and Development for the Special Operations Training Association. Chief Duggan is a Sr. National instructor for Calibre Press, LouKa Tactical and KFD Consulting and specializes in human performance factors analysis, training force options, firearms, arrest and control, and leadership development. He has served as teaching faculty for the Force Science Institute conference and Daigle Law Group Use of Force Summit. Additionally, he is a certified Advanced Specialist in the Behavioral Analysis of Force Encounters through the Force Science Institute and consults as an expert witness in use of force incidents and policing best practices at the State and Federal levels.

Supplemental Reading:

Duke, A. (2018). Thinking in Bets: Making Smarter Decisions When You Don't Have All the Facts.

https://www.amazon.com/Thinking-in-Bets-Annie-Duke-audiobook/dp/B078SBSBW3

Snook, S. A. (2000). Friendly Fire: The Accidental Shootdown of U.S. Black Hawks Over Northern Iraq.

https://www.amazon.com/Friendly-Fire-Accidental-Shootdown-Northern/dp/0691095183

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Guest:

Dr. Chuck J. Rylant has 25 years of experience and is a Federal and State Court qualified expert witness in use-of-force, de-escalation, self-defense, strangulation, memory, fight or flight, decision making, and other human performance factors. He has a Doctor of Clinical Psychology– his dissertation was entitled: Decisions Under Pressure: Psychological and Physiological Aspects of Police Use of Force. Dr. Rylant is a retired police officer/detective, S.W.A.T. member, and P.O.S.T. certified department firearms, baton, chemical agents, use of force, and arrest and control (ARCON) trainer. He is also a former police academy arrest and control (ARCON), use-of-force, and de-escalation instructor, as well as a Certified Force Science Analyst and Advanced Force Science Specialist. Dr. Rylant is a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt instructor for law enforcement and civilians, as well as the author of Shots Fired: The Psychology Behind Officer Involved Shootings.

You can learn more about Dr. Rylant and his work at his website:
www.chuckrylant.com

Supplemental Reading:

Rylant, C. J. (2017). Shots Fired: The Psychology Behind Officer Involved Shootings.

https://www.amazon.com/Shots-Fired-Psychology-Officer-Involved-Shootings/dp/B077SRFGF9

Rylant, C. J. (2016). Motivation: Stories on Life and Success from Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Black Belts.

 https://www.amazon.com/Motivation-Stories-Success-Brazilian-Jiu-Jitsu-ebook/dp/B01LZE9NSR

Rylant, C. J. (2019). Success: The Path to Personal Fulfillment Through Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Fighters.

https://www.amazon.com/Success-Personal-Fulfillment-Brazilian-Jiu-Jitsu-ebook/dp/B07Q1DTCSK

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Supplemental Reading:

CBS News Report of Weapon-Confusion Shooting in Sauk Village, IL:

https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/sauk-village-police-shooting-body-camera-unarmed-14-year-old-boy/?fbclid=IwAR3lHRrzBjkqux8zNFLVnRCfQdz16IHxaD-pbaOiKPvd9eHcQboqKvGhK_U

Taylor, P. L. (2020). Guns and TASERs: Solving cops' 'weapon-confusion' problem. The Crime Report.

https://thecrimereport.org/2020/08/05/guns-and-tasers-solving-cops-weapon-confusion-problem/

Woods, D. D., Dekker, S., Cook, R., Johannesen, L., & Sarter, N. (2010). Behind Human Error (2nd Edition). Burlington, VT: Ashgate.

https://www.amazon.com/Behind-Human-Error-David-Woods/dp/0754678342

Martin, J. A. (2016). Applied human error theory: A police TASER-confusion shooting case study. Proceedings of the Human Factors and Ergonomics Society Annual Meeting.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1541931213601108

Taylor, P. L. (2019). Beyond false positives: A typology of police shooting errors. Criminology & Public Policy, 18: 807-822.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/1745-9133.12460

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Note: I want to apologize for the audio quality of this episode. The interview with Dr. Artwohl was recorded while I was traveling to present a class. With that said, the insights and  information she shared during our discussion are far too important and valuable not to share.

Guest:

Dr. Alexis Artwohl is a retired clinical and police psychologist who provided traumatic incident debriefings to numerous public safety personnel and citizens in the Pacific Northwest. She co-authored two books with Loren Christensen, published research in the FBI Law Enforcement Bulletin and the Law Enforcement Executive Forum, contributed chapters to books, and authored magazine articles. She has provided training to law enforcement and responsibly armed citizens across the country since 1990.

You can learn more about Dr. Artwohl and her work at her website: https://www.alexisartwohl.com

Supplemental Reading:

Artwohl, A., & Christensen, L. W. (2019). Deadly Force Encounters (2nd Edition): Cops and Citizens Defending Themselves and Others.

https://www.amazon.com/Deadly-Force-Encounters-Second-Themselves/dp/1650012195

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Supplemental Reading:

California Assembly Bill 360

https://legiscan.com/CA/text/AB360/id/2756384

Ross, D. L., & Vilke, G. M.  (2018). Guidelines for Investigating Officer-Involved Shootings, Arrest-Related Deaths, and Deaths In Custody. Routledge.

https://www.amazon.com/Guidelines-Investigating-Officer-Involved-Shootings-Arrest-Related/dp/0323296238

Gonin, P., Beysard, N., Yersin, B., & Carron, P. N. (2018). Excited delirium: A systematic review. Academic Emergency Medicine, 25(5), 552- 565.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/acem.13330

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Supplemental Reading:

Dekker, S. (2016). Just Culture (2nd Edition): Balancing Safety and Accountability. CRC Press.

https://www.amazon.com/Just-Culture-Sidney-Dekker/dp/1409440605

Edmonson, A. C. (2018). The Fearless Organization: Creating Psychological Safety in the Workplace for Learning, Innovation, and Growth. Wiley.

https://www.amazon.com/Fearless-Organization-Psychological-Workplace-Innovation/dp/1119477247

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