For our first episode of 2025, Nate and Josh Jackson talk through a few fresh New Year’s resolutions related to listening. And we’re sharing one of our favorite interviews in recent memory: a sit-down with Samara Joy, her father and her grandfather at Mother Bethel AME Church. Touching on deep gospel roots, strong family bonds and a spirit of service, it’s a special conversation that summons the energy we want to bring into the year.

Our intro and interstitial music comes from The Savettes.

More to explore:

• Watch our video Joy & Praise: The McLendon Legacy
• Listen to our episode with Samara Joy and Gregory Porter

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