David Bloom and Daniel Frankel welcome back Robert Rose, independent producer and creator of Raw Travel — syndicated in 97% of the country and heading into its 14th season — for a wide-ranging conversation ahead of the Stream TV Denver conference, where Next TMT will be publishing show dailies and daily wrap-ups all week.
📺 The Independent Producer's Dilemma — Rob has 200 episodes of mostly evergreen travel content that has run through two full syndication cycles. The new distribution landscape offers more ways than ever to monetize that library — FAST channels, vertical video, digital-first formats — but it's an expensive and confusing maze to navigate without a studio behind you.
🌍 The Travel FAST Channel Problem — Rob looked hard at launching his own FAST channel and found the travel category is a wasteland of generic content. Does it have a tangential relationship to travel? Put it on. The same lack of curation that plagued broadcast TV has followed content into streaming.
🎬 Celebrities Who Travel vs. Travelers Who Make TV — Stanley Tucci, Zac Efron, Conan O'Brien. These are celebrities doing travel shows, not travel show creators. Rob makes the distinction — and explains why it matters for audiences who actually want to learn something about the world.
⚖️ Ken Paxton Goes After Netflix — The Texas AG turned Senate candidate is now targeting Netflix, complete with AI-generated campaign ads putting his opponent in a dress. The intersection of streaming, politics, and Gen AI advertising is getting very weird very fast.
📰 CBS Is a Dumpster Fire on Purpose — Scott Pelley's exit, Bari Weiss, and the systematic dismantling of a 57-year-old institution. Rob doesn't mince words: this is destruction by design, not an attempt to build something better.
🗺️ What Travel Teaches You — From Finland's disinformation resilience model to Morocco's plastic bag ban, Rob makes the case that independent travel journalism still has something to say that celebrity travel shows never will.
🎙️ Hosted by David Bloom & Daniel Frankel | Guest: Robert Rose, Raw Travel Next TMT × Media Play News — Live coverage all week from Stream TV Denver
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00:02 Introduction to Raw Travel and Upcoming Conference
02:50 The Evolution of Travel Content Creation
04:11 Navigating the Travel Landscape: Challenges and Opportunities
07:07 The Role of AI in Travel Planning
09:57 The Future of Travel Shows and Content Distribution
13:02 Geopolitics and Travel: A New Perspective
15:45 The Importance of Authentic Travel Experiences
18:41 Building a Diverse Travel Content Library
21:32 Conclusion and Future Plans
26:42 The Fight for Media Consolidation
28:49 The Role of Netflix in Media Dynamics
32:10 Political Maneuvering in Media Regulation
34:47 The Impact of Disinformation on Society
41:51 Opportunities for Independent Producers
46:43 The Future of Traditional Media
50:24 The Importance of Truth in Media