Pivot Podcast

NFL’s Jonathan Owens undrafted to starting safety in Green Bay, playoff push, marriage to Simone Biles & learning importance of mental health through her journey.


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Ryan, Channing and Fred sit down with the starting safety to talk about his journey to professional football and how he overcame adversity since day one. 


Division II prospects rarely get NFL looks, and undrafted players often have to be the hardest workers on the field to even make practice squads. Yet with his back against the wall, Jonathan Owens proved he belonged in the NFL, and now he is a core defensive member for the playoff-chasing Green Bay Packers. 


Jonathan and his Olympic star wife Simone Biles have become some of the biggest mental health advocates in the athletic space, and Owens becomes candid about his identity struggles after getting cut 5 different times. A story about how he and Simone met leads to a larger conversation about the importance of support systems in life, and by understanding paralysis by analysis, both he and Simone are excelling in their respective sports.


Mentally, Jonathan and Ryan both went through the trials and tribulations of being an undrafted player in the NFL, and the two reflect on how much effort it takes to become a player coaches can’t take off the field. 


From spending 6 hours alone in an airport after an unsuccessful tryout with the Indianapolis Colts to spending late nights practicing on beat-up fields across from the Arizona Cardinals facilities, Jonathan Owens has learned how to stay his course. 


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