Nick and June, After the Fact. A Handmaid’s Tale Podcast

This episode starts with the ATF Recommends segment, where your host, Wanda, shares the novel that all die-hard fans of The Handmaid’s Tale should read and why. 

Then, she is joined by Gwen and Mandy to discuss today’s Random Spotlight–does Serena deserve redemption? 

This episode’s Main Topic dives into The Testaments. All roads lead to the Testaments but how has the show laid the foundation for the follow-up series? Listen as your hosts reveal the key foreshadowing moments and their theories for how it will all connect.

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Dragon and Toast by Kevin MacLeod

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The Path of the Goblin King v2 by Kevin MacLeod

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On this episode, your hosts, Wanda, Gwen, and Mandy discuss season 6. In the first segment, Where Are They Now?, they talk about what’s next for the Canadian actresses, Kristen Gutoskie, who played Beth, and Nina Kiri, who played Alma, and her two new films.

In this episode’s Hot Topic, they share their thoughts on Bruce Miller stepping down as showrunner and the writing contributions of Yahlin Chang and Eric Tuchman.

In the Main Topic they discuss season 6 including what they want to see, plot predictions, and the burning questions they want answered.

Finally, the hosts share their highs, lows, and buffaloes for season 6.

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Music

Dragon and Toast by Kevin MacLeod

Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3673-dragon-and-toast

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The Path of the Goblin King v2 by Kevin MacLeod

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In this, the conclusion of a 3-part series, Wanda, Gwen, and Mandy give their thoughts on episodes 9 and 10. Following this, they discuss Bruce Miller post-season interviews, the importance of Elisabeth Moss to the season, and a bit about the cast. Finally, they each share their highs, lows, buffaloes, and heroes of season 5.

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Music

Dragon and Toast by Kevin MacLeod

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In this, the second episode of a 3-part series, Wanda, Gwen, and Mandy deep dive into episodes 5 through 8, discussing their likes and dislikes from all of the major moments.

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Music

Dragon and Toast by Kevin MacLeod

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Welcome to season 2! Your host, Wanda, introduces two new co-hosts, Gwen and Mandy. We learn how they met, when they became fans of The Handmaid’s Tale, and when they started shipping Nick and June.

In this, the first episode of a 3-part series, they take a look back at Season 5 of The Handmaid’s Tale and share their highs, lows, and buffaloes.

This episode, they dive into episodes 1 through 4, discussing their likes, dislikes, and notable moments. Tune in for all of their hot takes including a breakdown of why ‘The Chain’ by Fleetwood Mac was featured in episode 4.

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Music

Dragon and Toast by Kevin MacLeod

Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3673-dragon-and-toast

License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license

The Path of the Goblin King v2 by Kevin MacLeod

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A brief message to our loyal listeners from Wanda your host.

In order to meet life’s challenges, we here at Nick and June, After the fact, have decided to go on a brief hiatus. Rest assured, we will return to you better than ever. Thank you for your unwavering support. We will see you on the other side of The Handmaid’s Tale, Season 5.

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Music
The Path of the Goblin King v2 by Kevin MacLeod
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License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license

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In the final part of this 2-part series, “The Ties That Bind”, your host, Wanda, dives deeper into trauma bonding with a focus on the difficult topic of abuse–red flags, high risk individuals, and the cycle of abuse. As always, she relates it to the show, this time, sharing examples of Nick’s selfless love, June’s autonomy in their relationship, and the toxic traits that emanate from Fred Waterford.

For this week’s ‘ATF Recommends’, Wanda explores a book that if you haven’t read, you’ve definitely heard of…The Handmaid’s Tale by Margaret Atwood! Listen as Wanda breaks down how Nick and June’s characters differ from the show and gives her official rating out of 4 ½ Hearts.

On the Social Media Minute, we share Elisabeth Moss’ (June ‘Offred’ Osborne) BIG directorial announcement and reactions from Madeline Brewer (Janine ‘Ofwarren’ Lindo) and Max Minghella’s (Nick Blaine). Then, we have a few fun facts about the creators of the show!

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Timestamps:

1:56 - ATF Recommends

8:38 - Social Media Minute

10:35 - Trigger warning

11:11 - What is trauma bonding?

13:06 - The 7 stages of trauma bonding

13:40 - High risk trauma bonding groups

14:04 - Warning signs 

14:40 - Are Nick and June trauma bonded?

16:08 - 5 types of abuse and the cycle of abuse explained

17:05 - Signs of trauma bonding

20:40 - Toxic partner traits

21:33 - Why Fred Waterford is a narcissist 

22:38 - Nick’s selfless love

27:17 - Inspiration for Nick and June shippers

Music

Dragon and Toast by Kevin MacLeod

Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3673-dragon-and-toast

License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license

The Path of the Goblin King v2 by Kevin MacLeod

Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4502-the-path-of-the-goblin-king-v2

License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license

Unholy Knight by Kevin MacLeod

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In part 1 of this 2-part series, “The Ties That Bind”, your host, Wanda, dives into the truth about trauma bonding. She answers what a trauma bond is, what it isn’t, and why it doesn’t apply to Nick and June. She also explains the 7 stages of trauma bonding and shares examples from the show.

But first, ATF Recommends Shining Girls, a TV show starring The Handmaid’s Tale actresses, Elisabeth Moss and Madeline Brewer. The 2022 show was co-produced by Moss’ production company, Love & Squalor Pictures, and is streaming now on Apple TV+.

On the Social Media Minute, Wanda gives us details about the new season of The Handmaid’s Tale including the air date, release schedule and the cast members who are doubling as directors!

After the disappointing news that actor Alexis Bledel is stepping away from the show, our Random Spotlight highlights our favorite Emily Malek moment, from Season 1, Episode 5. Wanda breaks down Emily’s background as a revolutionary and uses a scene from the Season 4 finale to explain why Emily and June just “click”.

If you believe you’re in an abusive relationship, please reach out to us as we’d be happy to share some resources you may find helpful.

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Timestamps:

2:53 - ATF Recommends

4:25 - Social Media Minute

6:12 - Random Spotlight

13:31 - Main Topic

14:48 - What a trauma bond isn’t

15:31 - What a trauma bond is

17:51 - The 7 Stages of Trauma Bonding

17:56 - Stage 1: Love Bombing 

18:58 - Stage 2: Trust and Dependency

19:10 - Stage 3: Criticism

19:28 - Stage 4: Gaslighting

19:48 - Stage 5: Surrender

20:00 - Stage 6: Loss of Self

20:18 - Stage 7: Addiction

22:40 - Closing thoughts and why we confuse trauma bonding with healthy love

24:57 - This episode’s inspirational quote

Music

Dragon and Toast by Kevin MacLeod

Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3673-dragon-and-toast

License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license

The Path of the Goblin King v2 by Kevin MacLeod

Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4502-the-path-of-the-goblin-king-v2

License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license

Unholy Knight by Kevin MacLeod

Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4563-unholy-knight

License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license

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On today’s episode of Nick and June: After The Fact, Wanda is joined by special guest and long-time friend, Pastor Steven Alston, to complete our two-part episode in which we dissect 1 Corinthians 13:4-7, the Nick and June scripture, verse by verse. But first, they discuss the history of the Corinthian Church and the significance of Margaret Atwood’s Genesis 30 reference in the first episode of the show. 

Then, they deep dive into the four types of love, Storge, Philia, Eros, and Agape and describe how they relate to The Handmaid’s Tale and the Bible. Wanda also defends Nick’s character and uses examples from the four types of love to show his deep sense of care for June and his opposition to the beliefs of Gilead.

More about our guest:

Pastor Steven Alston is a published author with a masters degree in Communications and is currently pursuing his educational doctoral degree in Biblical Leadership. He is a Persian Gulf war veteran, having served in the Navy and a Director/Associate Producer of the documentary, Return To Glory.

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Timestamps:

3:48 - Pastor Steven’s background

7:00 - History of The Corinthian Church

9:20 - Breakdown of Margaret Atwood’s Genesis 30 reference

15:15 - Storge: Empathy Bond Love

21:35 - Philia: Friendship Love

22:35 - Eros: Erotic Love 

23:50 - Agape: Unconditional Love

27:57 - Selfless love is patient

30:40 - Selfless love is kind

35:18 - Selfless love is not jealous

37:23 - Selfless love is not arrogant

43:23 - Selfless love is not provoked 

48:14 - Selfless love bears all things

53:57 - This episode’s inspirational quote

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Music

Dragon and Toast by Kevin MacLeod

Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3673-dragon-and-toast

License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license

The Path of the Goblin King v2 by Kevin MacLeod

Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4502-the-path-of-the-goblin-king-v2

License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license

Unholy Knight by Kevin MacLeod

Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4563-unholy-knight

License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license

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In this, our inaugural episode, you’ll be introduced to your host and fellow Osblaine, Wanda. You will learn who she is, why she started this podcast, and what you can expect going forward. Before diving into the first part of a two part series, she’ll share some of her favorite things from social media and give some insight into Nick and his relationships with others.  What follows is a journey to discover the differences between the two ceremonies in Season 2, episode 5 of The Handmaid’s Tale, and a verse  by verse analysis of 1 Corinthians 13:4-7, The Nick and June Scripture.

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Get to know Wanda’s background, her two dogs Heart and Halo, and why she started this podcast. In the following segment, ATF Recommends, we recommend a book that gives a behind-the-scenes look at how the show is made—the perfect keepsake for the die hard Handmaid’s Tale fan.

This week’s Social Media Minute highlights an engaging Instagram post from one of the show’s writers, Nina Fiore. We reposted it on our IG, check it out and let us know what you think!

Next is our Random Spotlight segment in which we discuss a conversation between June and Rita from Season 2, Episode 9. Get the answers to: why Rita doesn’t fear Nick, is Nick loyal to June or Gilead, and what is the truth about Nick’s character?

Finally, for today’s Main Topic, we dive into Season 2, Episode 5. After a brief clip from the show, Wanda reveals the deceptive purpose of Prayvaganzas, explores The Ceremony at The Waterfords, and a close look at the Nick and June scripture and its relation to the meaning of true love.

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Timestamps:

[2:42] Wanda’s background

[3:55] Why Wanda started this podcast

[7:38] ATF Recommends a behind-the-scenes book

[9:28] Social Media Minute about A Handmaid’sTale writer, Nina Fiore

[12:51] Random Spotlight begins

[13:34] Scene breakdown from Season 2, Episode 9

[15:04] Relationship between Rita and Isaac

[17:29] Analyzing Nick’s character by how he treats others

[25:22] Main Topic: What Love Looks Like

[25:54] Nick reads 1 Corinthians 13:4-7 (clip from S02 E09)

[26:42] Prayvaganzas explained

[30:05] Price’s manipulative speech vs the full scripture

[34:20] The Ceremony at The Waterfords and different types of love

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Music

Dragon and Toast by Kevin MacLeod

Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3673-dragon-and-toast

License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license

The Path of the Goblin King v2 by Kevin MacLeod

Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4502-the-path-of-the-goblin-king-v2

License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license

Unholy Knight by Kevin MacLeod

Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4563-unholy-knight

License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license

#hulu #elisabethmoss #offred #osblaine #osborne #maxminghella

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