Key Links video IG: Donate!: Website:   Thank you to my Patrons…Phillip Jones, , Thor Pedersen, Steph Rowe, Adam Hickman, Bisa Myles & Ted Nims.  You can purchase them today on Amazon. And now, you can listen to ! And Alexa! And write a review! Check out our friend: .  They organize international rallies around the world, including Sri Lanka, Cambodia, the Philippines, and the Amazon.  And watch my full-length when I traveled with Large Minority.   Nick appeared on my radar screen when I read a post on FB about his quest to run a marathon in every country in the world.  My first thoughts were a mixture of disbelief and skepticism.  I started communicating with Nick at the end of 2019, yet it took to March of 2021 to sync our calendars. Patience is a virtue.   A special thank you to Twitter and Nabil Kazi, a traveler and athlete in his own right, who was a catalyst in setting up the interview.    After I speak with Nick, you will hear a snippet with Thor Pedersen.  You remember Thor, he has been on Counting Countries twice before.  Thor is on a quest to travel to every country in the world without flying.  Thor has made a lot of sacrifices, including not seeing his fiancee for over a year and a half.  After my conversation with Nick Butter, I will share with you part of my conversation on how Thor hacked his way to reunite with his fiancee, whom had had not seen in a year and a half. My patrons who support the show, will hear the entire hour conversation with Thor. Thanks to Phillip Jones, , Steph Rowe, Ted Nims, Bisa Myles, and Adam Hickman for supporting Counting Countries. They help pay for the production of this podcast.  You can support this podcast by going to .  And remember to follow Thor across social media at Once Upon A Saga. Stating the obvious, Counting Countries loves the long format interview.  This interview neared two hours yet I had an arsenal of unasked questions.  Nick’s career of travel and athletic feats could not be unpacked in two hours.  We overview his journey which was an incredible balance of logistics and physical sacrifice all while promoting awareness of prostate cancer.  You can donate .   A quick notes from our friends at Untamed Borders … This year, with travel back on the horizon, Untamed Borders have some seriously off the beaten track trips planned. Join them in Afghanistan for one of the world’s most remote treks to the Wakhan Corridor, or a cultural tour visiting the country's highlights, led by Afghanistan's only female tour guide - she was recently featured in CNN. Other upcoming Untamed Borders trips include Pakistan and Iraq, where it is now possible to obtain visas on arrival in Baghdad for many nationalities.  I've been to Kurdistan, but am really excited to visit Baghdad while jumping through less hoops.  Nick was in England while I was recording in Beantown.  Please listen in and enjoy.   About Counting Countries Counting Countries is the only podcast to bring you the stories from the dedicated few who’ve spent their lives on the singular quest of traveling to every country in the world. Fewer people have traveled to every country in the world than have been to outer space. Theme music for this podcast is Demeter’s Dance, written, performed, and provided by . About GlobalGaz Ric Gazarian is the host of Counting Countries. He is the author of three books: , , and .  He is the producer of two travel documentaries: and .  Ric is also on his own quest to visit every country in the world. You can see where he has and keep up with his journey at Well…that depends on who you ask! The United Nations states that there are. The British Foreign and Commonwealth office states that there are. The Traveler’s Century Club states that there are. The Most Traveled Person states that there are. The Nomad Mania SISO says there are. Me? My goal is the 193 countries that are recognized by the UN, but I am sure I will visit some other places along the way. Disclaimer: I will earn a fee if you order from Amazon/Agoda. Or book a trip through G Adventures.  PS  Thanks!   More details at: ----- Produced by