This episode was recorded on July 11, 2023 and posted on August 12, 2023.

Content Warning: Light vulgarity, discussions of extreme and disturbing media.

Introduction

• Welcome to No Bodies Episode 4
• Introductions to your Ghosts Hosts with the Most - Lonely of Lonely Horror Club and Projectile Varmint aka Suzie of Horror Movie Weekly
• Introductions to our guest - Jay of the Dead host of Horror Movie Weekly & JOTD's New Horror Movies, movie critic extraordinaire, podcasting master, & dear friend
• Today's Topic: Extreme Horror & Ethics of "Unwatchability"

Extreme Horror Discourse

• Our experiences with extreme horror
• Defining extreme horror and exploitation horror
• "Is it extreme horror?" rapid fire
• Historical lens of extreme & exploitation horror
• Ethics of making & consuming extreme media
• Censorship in horror media
• Jay's perspective on balancing horror & faith

Worst & Best Representations of Extreme Horror

Spoilers ahead!

Unwatchable Lists

• Salo: 120 Days of Sodom (1975) - Jay & Lonely
• August Underground (2001) - Lonely
• The Human Centipede (2009) - Suzie
• A Serbian Film (2010) - Jay & Lonely

Worst

• Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father (2008) - Jay
• Cannibal Holocaust (1980) - Suzie
• The Sadness (2021) - Lonely
• Eden Lake (2008) - Lonely

Best

• Martyrs (2008) - Suzie
• Kidnapped (2010) - Jay
• Eat (2014) - Jay
• Raw (2016) - Lonely

Suzie's Deep Cuts

• Tetsuo: The Iron Man (1989)
• Ichi the Killer (2001)
• The Girl Next Door (2007)
• Megan is Missing (2011)

Other Extreme Examples from Jay

• Feed (2005)
• The Bridge (2006)
• The Act of Killing (2012)
• The Corpse of Anna Fritz (2015)

Final Thoughts

• As extreme horror continues to grow in popularity, are we risking becoming desensitized to violence?

Thank you to our guest!

• Follow Jay's podcasts Horror Movie Weekly and Jay of the Dead's New Horror Movies.

Keep Up with Your Hosts

• Check out our instagram antics and drop a follow @nobodieshorrorpodcast.

• Projectile Varmint - catch Suzie on Horror Movie Weekly with our dear friends Jay of the Dead, Mister Waston, and Channy Dreadful. Suzie also runs the HMW Instagram @ horrormovieweekly.

• Lonely - read more from Lonely and keep up with her filmstagram chaos @lonelyhorrorclub on Instagram and www.lonelyhorrorclub.com.

Original No Bodies Theme music by Jacob Pini. Need music? Find Jacob on Instagram at @jacob.pini for rates and tell him No Bodies sent you!

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Sources & Additional Reading

Kerner, A., & Knapp, J. (2016, June 17). Extreme cinema. De Gruyter. https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/9781474402910/html?lang=en

Lewis, J. (1970, January 1). Hollywood v. Hard Core. Internet Archive. https://archive.org/details/hollywoodvhardco00lewi_0/page/198/mode/2up

Phillips, K. R. (2022). The ethical edge of a chainsaw, or how horror invites us to ponder the limits of our exprience. Media Ethics Magazine. https://www.mediaethicsmagazine.com/index.php/browse-back-issues/218-spring-2022-vol-33-no-2/3999383-the-ethical-edge-of-a-chainsaw-or-how-horror-invites-us-to-ponder-the-limits-of-our-experience

Splatterpunk for dummies, or defining the genre for those who love horror fiction. FANGORIA. (2023, January 13.). https://www.fangoria.com/original/splatterpunk-for-dummies-or-defining-the-genre-for-those-who-love-horror-fiction/

Szabo, S. (2023, March 7). Horror movies banned for being too disturbing. Looper. https://www.looper.com/4613/horror-movies-banned-disturbing/

This episode was recorded on July 8, 2023 and posted on July 29, 2023.

Introduction

• Welcome to No Bodies Episode 3
• Introductions to your Ghosts Hosts with the Most - Lonely of Lonely Horror Club and Projectile Varmint aka Suzie of Horror Movie Weekly
• Introductions to our guest - Aukai Ligairi, documentary filmmaker and podcasting legend, aka Wolfman Josh
• Today's Topic: Indigenous Cultures in Horror

Discussion of Indigenous Representation in Media

• Representation gap of native cultures in film
• Impact of harmful representations and stereotypes like "The Indian Burial Ground"
• Who has the right to tell which stories?
• Access for native creators in film and television
• Ethics of retelling native folklore, like the Wendigo, by nonnative creators
• Ethics of consuming media with "problematic" representations of native cultures
• Eurocentric folk horror connections to native reparations

Worst & Best Representations of Indigenous Cultures in Horror

Spoilers ahead!

Worst

• The Manitou (1978) - Lonely
• The Ghost Dance (1982) - Suzie
• Scalps (1983) - Aukai
• Creepshow 2 (1987) - Lonely
• Wendigo (2001) - Lonely

Best

• The Dead Lands (2014) - Aukai
• Mohawk (2017) - Aukai
• Blood Quantum (2019) - Suzie
• The Dead Lands (2020) - Aukai
• Antlers (2021) - Suzie & Lonely
• Prey (2022) - Aukai
• Slash/back (2022) - Aukai & Suzie

Suzie's Deep Cuts

• Nightwing (1979)
• Ravenous (1999)
• The Dead Can't Dance (2010)

Final Thoughts

• Where do you see the future of native storytelling in horror?

Thank you to our guest!

• Follow Aukai on Instagram & Twitter @aukaiviti and on Letterboxd @aukailigari. Stream Cleanflix (2012) on Tubi and Life Below Zero: First Alaskans (2022) on Disney+.

Keep Up with Your Hosts

• Check out our instagram antics and drop a follow @nobodieshorrorpodcast.

• Projectile Varmint - catch Suzie on Horror Movie Weekly with our dear friends Jay of the Dead, Mister Waston, and Channy Dreadful. Suzie also runs the HMW Instagram @ horrormovieweekly.

• Lonely - read more from Lonely and keep up with her filmstagram chaos @lonelyhorrorclub on Instagram and www.lonelyhorrorclub.com.

Original No Bodies Theme music by Jacob Pini. Need music? Find Jacob on Instagram at @jacob.pini for rates and tell him No Bodies sent you!

Leave us a message at (617) 431-4322‬ and we just might answer you on the show!

Sources & Additional Reading

Anthony, E. (2020, November 28). Native American horror: Exploring the people over the legends. The Emory Wheel. https://emorywheel.com/native-american-representation-in-horror/

Budzinski, N. (2021, December 10). "It's all an indian burial ground": Folk horror cinema's reckoning with Colonial Violence. ArtReview. https://artreview.com/its-all-an-indian-burial-ground-folk-horror-cinema-reckoning-with-colonial-violence/

Echo Hawk, C. (2021, October 11). Indigenous representation is still scarce in Hollywood: "we need more native stories" (guest column). Variety. https://variety.com/2021/film/opinion/indigenous-representation-hollywood-native-stories-1235086445/

Elliot, A. (2017, October 17). The rise of Indigenous horror: How a fiction genre is confronting a monstrous reality. CBCnews. https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5323428

Hubbell-Hinton, K. (2021, August 20). The power of Indigenous Horror. Indigenous Goddess Gang. https://www.indigenousgoddessgang.com/indigenous-cinematics/2021/8/15/the-power-of-indigenous-horror

National Museum of the American Indian. (2023). Native knowledge 360°-celebrating native cultures through words: Storytelling and oral traditions. Home Page. https://americanindian.si.edu/nk360/informational/storytelling-and-oral-traditions

Welcome to No Bodies! Get ready to get ugly.

Content Warnings for this Episode

Light vulgarity.

Introduction

This episode was recorded on June 29, 2023 and posted on July 15, 2023.

• Welcome to No Bodies Episode 2
• Introductions to your Ghosts Hosts with the Most - Lonely of Lonely Horror Club and Projectile Varmint aka Suzie of Horror Movie Weekly
• Introductions to our guests - hosts of Feature Creatures D.T.F Jordana & Sam.
• Today's Topic: Evolution of the Slasher

Slasher Discourse

• Our experiences with slashers
• Defining slashers
• "Is it a slasher?" rapid fire
• Scream (1996) & Wes Craven's impact
• Modern Slashers & Controversy

Worst & Best Representations of Slashers

Spoilers ahead!

• Worst Examples of a Slasher - Sam & Jordana
  • A Nightmare On Elm Street (2010)
  • Halloween (2007)
• Worst Ending - Suzie
  • April Fool's Day (1986)
• Worst Backstory - Lonely
  • Leatherface (2017)
• Best Examples of a Slasher - Sam & Jordana
  • Black Christmas (1974)
  • Halloween (1978)
• Best Final Girl - Suzie
  • Mia from Evil Dead (2013)
• Best Final Guy - Lonely
  • Jesse from A Nightmare on Elm Street 2: Freddy's Revenge (1985)

Suzie's Deep Cuts

• May (2002)
• Cold Prey (2006)
• All the Boys Love Mandy Lane (2016)
• Lake Bodom (2016)
• Scare Campaign (2016)
• Mandy (2018)
• Hellfest (2018)
• The Banana Split Movie (2019)

Slashers Made by Women

• Slumber Party Massacre (1982)
• Blood Diner (1987)
• Sorority House Massacre (1986)
• Jennifer's Body (2009)
• Piggy (2018)
• Fear Street Trilogy (2021)
• Candyman (2021)

Final Thoughts

• Where is the future of the slasher?

Thank you to our guests!

• Jordana is on Instagram as @prettykillerpodcast and hosts Pretty Killer Podcast on Apple Podcasts & Spotify.
• Sam is on Instagram as @2bornot2bmovies!
• Follow Jordana & Sam's new podcast Feature Creatures D.T.F on Apple Podcasts & Spotify and Instagram

Keep Up With Your Hosts

• Check out our instagram antics and drop a follow @nobodieshorrorpodcast.
• Projectile Varmint - catch Suzie on Horror Movie Weekly with our dear friends Jay of the Dead, Mister Waston, and Channy Dreadful. Suzie also runs the HMW Instagram @ horrormovieweekly.
• Lonely - read more from Lonely and keep up with her filmstagram chaos @lonelyhorrorclub on Instagram and www.lonelyhorrorclub.com.
• Original No Bodies Theme music by Jacob Pini. Need music? Find Jacob on Instagram at @jacob.pini for rates and tell him No Bodies sent you!
• Leave us a message at (617) 431-4322‬ and we just might answer you on the show!

Sources & Additional Reading

Kench, Sam. "The Slasher Film - Definition, Characters, Villains & Tropes." StudioBinder, 25 Oct. 2021, www.studiobinder.com/blog/what-is-a-slasher-film-definition/.

Mikulee, Sven. "'Psycho': The Proto-Slasher That Brought on a Revolution in Cinema • Cinephilia & Beyond." Cinephilia & Beyond, 10 Feb. 2023, cinephiliabeyond.org/psycho-proto-slasher-brought-revolution-cinema/#:~:text=Most%20importantly%20for%20filmmaking%20in,era%2C%20the%20extremely%20blood%20eighties.

Rhuart, Britton, "A Blade in the Dark: Translating the Giallo Killer into the Slasher" (2018). Ray Browne Conference on Cultural and Critical Studies. 4. https://scholarworks.bgsu.edu/rbc/2018conference/005/4

Smith, Donnie. "How Scream Changed the Face of Horror." MovieWeb, 10 Jan. 2022, movieweb.com/scream-changed-horror-genre/#:~:text=As%20with%20the%20slasher%20giants,out%20breaking%20the%20fourth%20wall.

Welcome to No Bodies! Get ready to get ugly.

Content Warnings for this Episode

Light vulgarity. Discussions of mental illness including interpersonal trauma, suicidal ideation, substance abuse.

If you or a loved one are struggling with mental health, please reach out to a professional mental health resource.

US Resources

• Survivors of Sexual Violence | RAINN | https://www.rainn.org/
• Substance Abuse | SAMHSA | https://www.samhsa.gov/find-help/national-helpline
• Perinatal & Postpartum Mental Health | National Maternal Mental Health Hotline | https://mchb.hrsa.gov/national-maternal-mental-health-hotline
• Suicide & Crisis Lifeline | https://988lifeline.org/

International Resources

• Directory of Mental Health Hotlines by Country: https://portal.cca.edu/thriving/counseling/international-mental-health-support/

Introduction

This episode was recorded on June 21, 2023 and posted on July 1, 2023.

• Welcome to No Bodies Episode 1
• Introductions to your Ghosts Hosts with the Most - Lonely of Lonely Horror Club and Projectile Varmint aka Suzie of Horror Movie Weekly
• Today's Topic: Mental Health in Horror
• Why Mental Health? Suzie and Lonely's experience with mental illness

Unpacking Mental Health in Horror

• The Historic Treatment of the Mentally Ill from a US Lens
• Evolution of Mental Health in Horror Cinema

Worst & Best Representations of Mental Health in Horror

Spoilers ahead!

Worst

• The Night House (2020)
• Split (2016)
• Secret Window (2004)
• The Invisible Man (2020)
• The Clock (2023)
• The House that Jack Built (2018)

Best

• The Lodge (2019)
• Censor (2021)
• Gerald's Game (2017)
• Jacob's Ladder (1990)
• Swallow (2019)
• The Descent (2005)
• The Cat Lady (2012)
• Downfall (2016)

Other Recommendations for this Topic

• Saint Maud (2019)
• The Exorcism of Emily Rose (2005)
• Relic (2020)
• Carrie (1976)
• Good Night Mommy (2014)
• A Tale of Two Sisters (2003)
• The Uninvited (2009)
• Resolution (2012)
• Toad Road (2012)
• Bliss (2021)
• Lovely Molly (2011)
• His House (2020)
• A Spoonful of Sugar (2022)
• The Babadook (2014)

Final Thoughts

• Closing Thoughts on the Mental Health in Horror

Keep Up with Your Hosts

• Check out our instagram antics and drop a follow @nobodieshorrorpodcast.
• Projectile Varmint - catch Suzie on Horror Movie Weekly with our dear friends Jay of the Dead, Mister Waston, and Channy Dreadful. Suzie also runs the HMW Instagram @ horrormovieweekly.
• Lonely - read more from Lonely and keep up with her filmstagram chaos @lonelyhorrorclub on Instagram and www.lonelyhorrorclub.com.

Original No Bodies Theme music by Jacob Pini. Need music? Find Jacob on Instagram at @jacob.pini for rates and tell him No Bodies sent you!

Leave us a message at (617) 431-4322‬ and we just might answer you on the show!

Sources & Additional Reading

Bao, J. (2020, March 9). Prisons: The new asylums. Harvard Political Review. https://harvardpolitics.com/prisons-the-new-asylums/

Mancine, R. (2020). Horror movies and mental health conditions through the ages. The American Journal of Psychiatry. https://psychiatryonline.org/doi/10.1176/appi.ajp-rj.2020.160110

Rice University & OpenStaxCollege. (2014, February 14). Mental health treatment: Past and present. Psychology. https://pressbooks-dev.oer.hawaii.edu/psychology/chapter/mental-health-treatment-past-and-present/

Weinstock, C. P. (2018, June 1). Risk of being a crime victim goes up with mental illness diagnosis. Reuters. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-mentalillness-crime-victims/risk-of-being-a-crime-victim-goes-up-with-mental-illness-diagnosis-idUSKCN1IX5W2

Welcome to No Bodies! Get ready to get ugly.

Keep Up with Your Hosts

• Check out our Instagram antics and drop a follow @nobodieshorrorpodcast.

• Projectile Varmint - catch Suzie on Horror Movie Weekly with our dear friends Jay of the Dead, Mister Waston, and Channy Dreadful. Suzie also runs the HMW Instagram @horrormovieweekly.

• Lonely - read more from Lonely and keep up with her filmstagram chaos @lonelyhorrorclub on Instagram and www.lonelyhorrorclub.com.

Original No Bodies Theme music by Jacob Pini. Need music? Find Jacob on Instagram at @jacob.pini for rates and tell him No Bodies sent you!

Leave us a message at (617) 431-4322‬ and we just might answer you on the show!