Reverend Dr Ash Barker is an Australian shalom activist, communicator and Pioneer Minister living in the UK. His new book is No Wastelands: How to grow seedbeds of Shalom in your neighbourhood.

In this wonderful episode, Ash and I talk about pilgrimage, love, light, lessons and seasons and what we can learn by bringing change to our lives and our communities.

You can find Ash's book and his work at Seedbeds here