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Rod Osborne was an FBI agent for 26 years. He’s lived all over including several faraway places like Spain, the Philippines and China. Now, just this information alone would be enough to get a people person to want to hear Rod’s story but wait; there’s more.

Did you happen to see the Hulu docuseries, “Mormon No More”? Rod, his wife Nan, and four of their five children appear in the show which deals with Rod’s daughter Sally falling in love with another woman while both married to men. I may be a bit biased, but I thought it was great!

As I visited with Rod and he shared his story, time and time again we realized we had much in common. I should say that Rod and I are friends, teammates on a tournament softball team. As Rod shares his life story, I know each listener will come away impressed by his dedication to family, country and truth.

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In high school Steve Gamlin had a crush on a girl named Tina, but he was too shy to ask her out. Twenty-one years later Steve received an email from Tina. She wondered what he was up to because as crazy as it may have seemed, Tina had an interest in Steve in back in high school as well.

One thing led to another, and they ended up together. As Steve shares his story, we end up talking quite a bit about Tina & Steve’s relationship and some of the things they have been able to do. 

In this episode, Steve talks about his love for Tina and how she has been the inspiration for much of Steve has gone on to accomplish. Tina was also instrumental along with Steve in creating BeachBum Philanthropy and he explains just exactly what that is.

This talk story session is moving, and I know it will leave a lasting impression on each listener. You’ll also learn the significance of number 6386. 

Contact Steve:

SteveGamlinSpeaker.com

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Episode Summary

If you’ve ever questioned your faith, struggled with loss, or felt the weight of expectations, this episode is for you.

Key Takeaways

• Larry Camp's journey reflects a deep connection to music and family.
• Mental health discussions are crucial in high-demand religious settings.
• Personal growth often comes from questioning /clarifying beliefs. 
• High-demand religions often create an image that members feel pressured to maintain.
• Women in Mormonism face significant limitations due to patriarchal structures.
• Community support is crucial for those who leave religious groups.
• Human connection fosters hope and resilience.
• Coping with faith and loss requires empathy and understanding.
• Engaging in fun activities is essential for well-being.
• Curiosity and learning are vital for personal growth.

In this powerful episode of Even Tacos Fall Apart, Larry Camp opens up about his life, his journey with the Mormon faith, and how leaving it shaped his mental health. A lifelong lover of music, sports, and Hawaii, Larry’s story is filled with twists and turns that reflect resilience and the importance of forging your own path.

One of the most moving parts of the interview came when Larry discussed the loss of his son, Dusty, in 2018. This devastating event, coupled with his departure from the Mormon Church, tested his resilience and emotional strength. He credited his wife of 44 years, Judy, as his rock during this challenging period. Larry candidly shared how the family coped and how his other son, Crosby, continues to struggle with Dusty’s death.

Larry also reflected on the beauty and challenges of living in Hawaii. Though he adored the Aloha spirit, the financial reality of life on the islands eventually led him and Judy to settle in Southern Utah. His passion for music, sports, and storytelling remains central to his life, as evidenced by his own podcast Nobody Knows Your Story, where he explores the richness of human experiences.

Throughout the conversation, Larry stressed the value of community—both in and out of religion. He also shared a poignant insight about personal growth: “You can’t change the past, but you can always aim to do better moving forward.”

This episode is a heartfelt reminder that mental health journeys are rarely straightforward, but with the right people in your corner and a willingness to seek truth, healing is always possible. Whether you’re grappling with faith, loss, or life’s uncertainties, Larry’s story offers wisdom, humor, and hope for finding peace on your own terms.

Invictus  - William Ernest Henley

Out of the night that covers me,

Black as the pit from pole to pole,

I thank whatever gods may be

For my unconquerable soul.

In the fell clutch of circumstance

I have not winced nor cried aloud.

Under the bludgeoning's of chance

My head is bloody, but unbowed.

Beyond this place of wrath and tears

Looms but the Horror of the shade,

And yet the menace of the years

Finds and shall find me unafraid.

It matters not how strait the gate,

How charged with punishments the scroll,

I am the master of my fate,

I am the captain of my soul.

Link to YouTube interview:

https://youtu.be/dh3lxlK2O1w?si=ZQWY7u8Bypj6uefQ

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David Kalākaua (1836–1891) was the last reigning king of the Kingdom of Hawaiʻi, serving from 1874 until his death in 1891. Known as the "Merrie Monarch", he was a strong advocate of Hawaiian culture, arts, and identity at a time when outside influences were rapidly changing the islands. Kalākaua revived traditional practices such as hula, which had been suppressed by missionaries, and promoted Hawaiian music, dance, and folklore. 

His legacy lives on through the Merrie Monarch Festival, an annual celebration of Hawaiian culture and hula named in his honor. 

Kalakaua- Renaissance King by Helena G. Allen

https://youtu.be/s5CcmXiLFMA?si=DjON6JYCV0PjLys1

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In this episode of the Nobody Knows Your Story podcast, Barry Adkins shares his life story but also, an important message. A message that came his way after the sudden and tragic death of his son Kevin. A big part of his after Kevin story included a long walk with a special message.

Now Barry's life story is more than losing his son. He talks about the life before one loses a child, and the life after. But certainly what Barry has been doing since Kevin's passing has been enlightening and helpful to many. 

Barry has also written a book, Kevin's Last Walk, A Father's Final Journey with His Son. 

Website: kevinslastwalk.com

Video link: https://youtu.be/v0blTIbbzO8?si=P-qLsWDBqOZZ0x56

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What would you sacrifice to follow your conscience?

In 1969, as the Vietnam War escalates and a nation divides, a young man faces the hardest decision of his life.

Bruce Wasser, a Princeton student with a promising future, receives a draft number that makes becoming a soldier a near certainty. While others debate war in lecture halls, Bruce is thrust into a personal battle—should he fight in a war he believes is unjust, or risk everything by standing as a conscientious objector?

90: A Conscientious Objector’s Journey of Quiet Resistance is a gripping memoir of moral courage and quiet defiance. Told through Bruce's deeply personal lens, this coming-of-age story explores themes of identity, integrity, and the high cost of staying true to one’s values.

I took the comments above from an Amazon description of Bruce's book. After visiting with Bruce I felt it was right in line with what we discussed. But... there's so much more to Bruce's life story. Take a listen and maybe you'll learn a bit about yourself. 

Bruce's book:

90: A Conscientious Objector’s Journey of Quiet Resistance 

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I really enjoyed "talking story" with Bill Simpson. I found him to be authentic as he shared his story of EVENTUALLY learning how to be better at being a kind, empathetic, communicative partner.

As Bill shared his story, he talked of failed relationships and what he was doing in these relationships that caused them to eventually implode. One thing Bill did was to seek therapy. But, perhaps the biggest thing he did was to embrace the need to change.

Take a listen and just maybe you'll relate to some of what Bill has learned. You can also get more great ideas from Bill's podcast.

PODCAST: Men on the Path to Love

WEBSITE: menonthepathtolove.com    

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Welcome to episode one of season six of Nobody Knows Your Story. My guest, Rick DellaRatta sang "live" during the podcast recording which was a first and we had fun recalling how he got involved in music, specifically jazz music.

I'd say that the events of 9/11/2001 changed any American who was alive at the time. This tragedy took Rick's life in a new direction and he explains how creating Jazz for Peace has helped many better their lives. Jazz for Peace™ provides Empowerment Grants, sustainable funding and advocacy for non-profits, artists and all outstanding causes worldwide to enable them to be more productive and successful.  

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Born in rural China with health issues which included open heart surgery at one, Jacob Roy spent his first few years in an orphanage. Luckily he was adopted by a wonderful woman who raised Jacob in Syracuse, NY.

In this episode, Jacob talks about growing up with few people in his life who looked like him and how sometimes he was more comfortable staying in the background.

But now, he's a graduate student at Georgetown University and starting his own podcast. We talk about these things are what his plans are going forward. 

Jacob's podcast:

https://blessthebridgeshow.substack.com/

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Right now, there are 100,000 people on the planet who are here to help uplevel it. They are the guides, the teachers, the healers, the coaches—the ones who will lead the shift toward a higher consciousness.

Kelle Sparta is a transformational shaman who helps spiritual practitioners, teachers, and coaches make 6-figure+ incomes doing the work they love.  After almost 50 years of study (yes, she started when she was just 5 years old), 29 years as a coach and healer, and 20 years marketing her services online, Kelle has a broad and unique perspective on what it takes to be successful in this industry.  

As I listened to Kelle share her story about "helping to uplevel the planet" I of course had to ask, why can some folks communicate with those who have passed? She very calmly replied...  I know, I know; I can be mean at times. :) She really does answer my question but you'll need to listen to the podcast.

ABOUT KELLE:

Website: Kellesparta.com

Book: The Over-Achiever’s Guide to Spiritual Awakening

Podcast: Spirit Sherpa