In this episode, our guest brings a very interesting and relevant topic to the table: climate psychology. Catrin and Maurizia talk to Gerdien de Vries, an environmental psychologist from TU Delft, about behavioural barriers for individual change in the sustainability and energy transitions, and the difference between climate and environmental psychology. Find out what the hassle factor is, what role multidisciplinarity plays in Gerdien's daily work or her insights about the interaction between her field and policy making.