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In Episode 19 of Not Another PD Podcast, Jazmin is joined by her best friend Kim, a youth worker, former residential care worker, mum, and school wellbeing practitioner.

This episode is a raw, lived-experience conversation about gender bias in the helping professions, the expectations placed on women to be endlessly available, and what can happen when pregnancy and parenting quietly change how workers are treated.

Kim shares her experience of becoming unwell with the flu while pregnant, taking time off, and returning to significantly reduced shifts. Together, Jazmin and Kim unpack how this reflects workplace discrimination, and why these experiences must be understood as psychosocial hazards, not personal resilience issues.

They also talk about guilt around sick and carers leave, financial stress, identity beyond professional roles, and how boundaries often only become non-negotiable once the cost of not having them becomes too high.

This is a conversation many helping professionals will recognise immediately, even if they’ve never heard it named this clearly before.

Work with Jazmin

If you are an organisation or leader wanting support to promote psychologically safer workplaces, address psychosocial hazards, or strengthen boundaries and role clarity for your staff, I’d love to have a conversation.

You can email me directly to discuss supervision, training, or organisational support via my website here.

If this episode resonated, you might want to start with Boundaries as Practitioners, my self-paced training for helping professionals.

It’s practical, values-led, and designed to support clearer boundaries without guilt or burnout.Self-paced training | $59

Episode 18: Why Does “Being Nice” Feel Safer at Work?

Why does “being nice” feel safer at work?

In this solo episode of Not Another PD, I explore people-pleasing through a different lens, not as a personality trait, but as a stress response.

I unpack the fawn response, a lesser-discussed nervous system response alongside fight, flight and freeze, and why it shows up so commonly for helping professionals.

This episode isn’t about naming or shaming.
It’s about understanding context, safety, and the systems many of us work within.

I talk through:

• How the fawn response shows up as over-agreeing, avoidance, blurred boundaries and people-pleasing

• Why helping professionals are particularly vulnerable to this response

• The role of gendered expectations and socialisation in care-based professions

• How unsafe, unpredictable, or unsupportive leadership environments can activate people-pleasing

• A real example from my own career, and how I would respond differently now

• How to recognise the fawn response through body cues, thoughts and behaviours

• Gentle ways to interrupt the pattern through awareness, reflection and support

This conversation applies to both professional and personal contexts, because nervous systems don’t switch off when work ends.

If this resonates, you’re welcome to send me a DM and let me know where you notice people-pleasing or the fawn response showing up for you.

You can also explore my self-paced Boundaries as Practitioners training or learn more about group supervision options for practitioners and leaders.

Boundaries as Practitioners (self-paced training)

Group supervision with me in 2026

Resources mentioned in this episode:

Stillman, M., Sullivan, E. E., Prasad, K., Sinsky, C. A., et al. (2024). Understanding what leaders can do to facilitate healthcare workers’ feeling valued. BMJ Leader. 

Jobs and Skills Australia — Social Workers occupational profile

Episode 17: Failure Isn’t the Threat You Think It Is with Bree Coulter

Failure isn’t the threat you think it is.

For many helping professionals, fear of failure quietly sits underneath people-pleasing, overworking, blurred boundaries, and chronic self-doubt, even when insight, experience, and professional knowledge are already there.

In this episode of Not Another PD, Jazmin is joined by Bree Coulter, creator of the SHIFT Method, a neuroscience-informed approach focused on subconscious healing, identity alignment, and safety-based change to explore why awareness alone rarely creates lasting shifts, and how old safety patterns continue to shape how we show up at work, in relationships, and in leadership.

This conversation unpacks why knowing why you do something doesn’t always change it, how the brain prioritises safety over logic, why fear of failure keeps people stuck in repeat cycles, the role of the limbic system in people-pleasing and over-functioning, why many boundary difficulties are safety-based rather than discipline-based, how failure becomes feedback and direction rather than proof you’re “not enough,” and what shifts when professionals begin leading from self-trust instead of self-protection.

Bree also shares her lived experience of being a high performer with no boundaries, how those patterns were rooted in early survival wiring, and how developing the SHIFT Method allowed her to realign who she was internally with how she showed up externally, including the personal boundaries she holds to protect her energy and family time.

This episode will resonate particularly with helping professionals who have done extensive therapy, supervision, and professional development, want to understand some of their patterns intellectually, still feel exhausted, reactive, or stuck, and are looking for change that actually lasts, not just more insight.

How to Work with Bree:

Bree offers 1:1 coaching using the SHIFT Method (Subconscious Healing and Identity Fracture Transformation).

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Bree also offers a free, non-sales clarity call for those wanting to explore what’s showing up and whether working together is the right fit.

Free Resource for Not Another PD Listeners:
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How to Work with Jazmin:

Boundaries as Practitioners — Self-Paced Training ($59)
A practical, evidence-informed professional learning program supporting helping professionals to recognise boundary moments early, reduce mental load, and practise with greater clarity and consistency. ACA OPD Approved Training.

1:1 Coaching & Supervision
Individualised support for helping professionals wanting tailored guidance to apply boundaries and theoretical frameworks confidently and sustainably in complex work environments.

Episode 16: The Myth of the Good Practitioner: Letting Go of Perfection in the Helping Professions

In this solo episode of Not Another PD, Jazmin explores one of the most deeply ingrained beliefs in the helping professions: the myth of the “good practitioner.”

Where does this idea come from? Why do so many of us equate being “good” with being endlessly available, endlessly capable, endlessly calm? And what’s the cost of upholding that standard on our wellbeing, our families, and our identity at work?

Drawing on her own experience working as a primary school social worker, Jazmin reflects on how striving to be the perfect practitioner can quietly become part of who we think we’re allowed to be, and how to begin unravelling that pressure.

You’ll hear:

- What a “myth” actually is, and why the “good practitioner” ideal is one

- How universities, placements, and workplaces quietly reward overgiving

- The pressure to constantly prove your worth as a practitioner (especially early career)

- How perfectionism and blurred boundaries chip away at work-life balance

- A simple, visual reflection activity you can try today to start releasing those internalised “shoulds”

- How to start talking about this safely in supervision and peer spaces

Mentioned in this episode:

- Reflection activity: Write a list of all the traits you think a “good” practitioner must have, read it aloud, then crumple it / erase it. You’re allowed to let those expectations go.

- Supervision: Bring this conversation to your supervisor, external supervisor, or trusted peer and ask, “What expectations am I carrying that are actually costing me?”

Connect with Jazmin:

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Boundaries as Practitioners Online Self-Paced Training ($59)

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Episode 15: The Stories We Inherit: How Family Patterns Shape Us as Helping Professionals with Sarah Voronov

This week on Not Another PD, Jazmin is joined by her old high school friend Sarah Voronov, a Naturopathic Kinesiologist and Rebirthing Breathwork Mastery Practitioner-in-training, to explore how the emotional patterns passed down through generations shape who we become, and how we show up as helping professionals.

Together, they unpack how unprocessed experiences and family conditioning can show up in our work through people-pleasing, conflict avoidance, or even physical reactions, and what it takes to become the “pattern disruptor” in your own story.

You’ll hear:

- How childhood conditioning influences professional boundaries and behaviours

- Why helping professionals are often the ones to break generational cycles

- What it means when your body reacts before your mind catches up

- How to start freeing yourself from old family stories that no longer serve you

Sarah shares powerful analogies and gentle, grounded insights to help you reconnect with your body’s wisdom and approach healing with compassion and curiosity.

Connect with Sarah Voronov:

Website

Instagram

Free download: Emotional Self-Reflection Chart: A guided chart to help you process emotions and uncover what’s really going on beneath the surface.

Naturopathic Kinesiology sessions (online anywhere in the world or in person, Narre Warren VIC)

Work with and Connect with Jazmin:

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Episode 14: The Excuses Leaders Use to Avoid Supervision (And Why They Don’t Stack Up)

This is the second instalment of my Bold Boundaries for Leaders mini-series, and today we’re talking about one of the most overlooked but essential leadership strategies: supervision.

Here’s the irony I see all the time: as leaders, we expect our staff to engage in supervision, yet so many of us don’t prioritise it for ourselves. And that comes with risks: to our wellbeing, our organisations, and the people we lead.

In this episode, I’ll cover:

• The three excuses leaders use to avoid supervision:

  1. The Firefighter - “I’m too busy putting out fires.”

  2. The Lone Wolf - “I can manage on my own.”

  3. The Banker - “There’s no budget, my organisation won’t fund it.”

• And why these excuses don’t stack up

• -Five key reasons you can use to self-advocate with your organisation about the importance of investing in supervision for leaders:

  1. Risk management

  2. Role-modelling

  3. Retention

  4. Professional standards

  5. Fairness and justice

Supervision isn’t optional, it’s your “regular service” as a leader. It helps keep you effective, grounded, and sustainable, and it strengthens your staff and organisation too.

Tune in and reflect on how you can stop hiding behind the excuses and start taking action on your own supervision.

Let’s connect: Visit www.jazminpursell.com.au, follow me on Instagram @jazminpursell

Send me a DM on Instagram and let me know which of the three excuses has popped up for you in the past, and what your next step towards prioritising supervision might be.

Episode 13: Should the Next Generation of Leaders Have No Boundaries Just Because We Don’t?

As leaders, supervisors, and mentors, our boundaries don’t just affect us, they quietly ripple out to the people we guide.
This solo episode is part of my Bold Boundaries for Leaders mini-series on Not Another PD.

And today, I’m asking a confronting but necessary question:

“Should the next generation of leaders have no boundaries… simply because we don’t?”

I’m also unpacking three leadership traps I see helping-professional leaders fall into again and again:

1. The Fixer
2. The Always On
3. The Over-Committer

In this episode, you’ll hear:

• How inconsistent boundaries quietly shape team culture and wellbeing

• Why your staff and clients take their cues from how you lead

• The cost of neglecting your own limits in leadership

• Practical reflections to help you lead with clarity, balance, and integrity

If you’re a helping professional in a leadership role, whether manager, supervisor, team lead, coordinator, or coach, this episode is especially for you.
Tune in to reflect on your own boundaries and the impact you want to have as a leader.

If this episode resonates and you’d like personalised support, I offer 1:1 leadership supervision for helping professionals.
I have appointments available both this month and in the new year, and I’d love to support you.

Book a 1:1 supervision session here:
https://jazminpursellconsulting.as.me/

Let’s connect:
www.jazminpursell.com.au
Instagram: @jazminpursell

Send me a DM and let me know which leadership trap resonated with you most.

Episode 12: Beyond the Tick-Box: What Real Supervision Looks Like with Jess Marsh.

What does real supervision look like, the kind that actually helps you stay well at work instead of just ticking a box?

In this episode, I’m joined again by Accredited Mental Health Social Worker, Jess Marsh, to talk about supervision as a genuine burnout prevention and recovery tool.

Jess shares her own experience of burnout and how reflective supervision helped her find her way back to sustainable practice.

We also explore:

• ​What makes supervision truly supportive (and what doesn’t).
• ​ Why “tick-box” supervision misses the point.
• ​ The difference between counselling and reflective supervision.
• ​ How tools like the Supervision Menu and ProQOL can help practitioners stay grounded.

And I have to admit, this episode came about because I was totally fan-girling over Jess’s Supervision Menu after buying myself a copy and using it in my own sessions.

Maybe I’m the only supervision nerd here… haha!

Tune in to hear how supervision, done well, can become one of your biggest protective factors against burnout.

Connect with Jess Marsh:

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Grab a copy of Jess’ amazing Supervision Menu and Therapeutic Practice Menu.

Other Resources Mentioned:

The Professional Quality of Life Scale – 5 (ProQOL)

Connect with Jazmin Pursell:

If you’re ready for supervision that supports your boundaries, wellbeing, and sustainable practice, you can:

Book supervision

Send me a DM on Instagram if this episode has helped you shift your thinking around your own supervision, I would love to hear from you. 

New episodes of Not Another PD are released every Friday before work.

Subscribe so you don’t miss the next conversation for helping professionals who care so much about the work that they do, but don’t want to burn out while doing it.

Episode 11: Burnout and When Your Work Starts Clashing with Your Values with Jess Marsh

What happens when the work you love starts pulling you away from the values that made you want to help in the first place?

In this conversation with Social Worker, Counsellor and Clinical Supervisor Jess Marsh, we explore what burnout really looks like, not just in your workload, but in your nervous system, values, and workplace culture.

Jess shares her own experiences of burnout (yes, more than one), the physical signs she missed, and what she’s learned about how values misalignment and organisational culture quietly feed exhaustion. We also talk about the pressure to “just be grateful,” and how reflective supervision can help you stay grounded and aligned,  even in challenging systems.

And yes, this episode started because I was totally fan-girling over Jess’s Supervision Menu after buying myself a copy. Maybe I’m the only supervision nerd here … haha!

If this chat gets you reflecting on your wellbeing, go back to Episode 5 with Exercise Physiologist Nat Barbieri, where we talk about how movement and physical energy can support burnout prevention for helping professionals.

In this episode Jess and I chat about:

-How burnout can sneak up even when you “know the signs”

-What values misalignment really feels like in practice

-Why workplace culture matters more than good intentions

-The early-career trap of gratitude and over-giving

-How reflective supervision supports long-term wellbeing

Connect with Jess Marsh:

Instagram

Facebook

Grab a copy of Jess’ amazing Supervision Menu and Therapeutic Practice Menu.

Connect with Jazmin Pursell:

If you’re ready for supervision that supports your boundaries, wellbeing, and sustainable practice, you can:

Book supervision or Coaching with me

Send me a DM on Instagram if this episode has helped you shift your thinking around your wellbeing and what additional steps you can put in place to optimise this, I would love to hear from you. 

New episodes of Not Another PD are released every Friday before work.

Subscribe so you don’t miss the next conversation for helping professionals who care so much about the work that they do, but don’t want to burn out while doing it.

Episode 10: Back Yourself: Imposter Syndrome, Supervision & Vicarious Trauma with Hannah Gordon

From “doing the bare minimum” to going all-in: how to trust your skills and protect your wellbeing.

This week on Not Another PD, I’m joined by Hannah Gordon, Accredited Mental Health Social Worker and founder of Nextdoor Counselling & Consultation.

Hannah supports adults feeling overwhelmed, uncertain, or stuck; provides specialist guidance for people living with dementia and their families; and offers strengths-based supervision for helping professionals.

She works in-person from Mornington/Frankston and via Telehealth Australia-wide.

We talk about:

- Backing yourself: why imposter syndrome is so common (even 20 years in) and what changed when Hannah went all in on private practice

- Supervision that actually helps: the difference between KPI/operational supervision and reflective external supervision, and why both matter

- Vicarious trauma: how “the trauma we didn’t ask for” builds slowly (disaster recovery insights, what to watch for)

- Boundaries that stick: Hannah’s end-of-day ritual (leave the laptop in the office!) and strategies to stop bringing work home

- Community & support: the power of group supervision, mentors, and data (how seeing her business metrics helped her believe her own progress)

Try this this week:

- Book/attend reflective supervision (not just operational check-ins).

- Create a shutdown routine: device off, door closed, bag left in the office.

- Write a one-page “I back myself” evidence list (wins, client feedback, progress graphs).

Connect with Hannah

Website

Next Door Counselling & Consultation on Instagram

In person appointments with Hannah: Mornington & Frankston (plus Telehealth Australia-wide)

Connect with Hannah’s Business Manager (Paul)

-Jarcun Business on Instagram

Work with me

Coaching and Supervision for mindset, boundaries, and sustainable practice as a helping professional.

Boundaries as Practitioners Online Self-Paced Training - https://www.jazminpursell.com.au/ineedboundaries

Email: [email protected].

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