On this episode, we welcome guest Vincent M. Wales from The Psych Central Show podcast! Gabe and Michelle first talk about what their families think of the podcast, so far. Gabe’s 80-year-old grandmother shares her thoughts the show, while Michelle’s Jewish mother has concerns about Gabe. But what would Michelle’s grandmother Blanche think? Vincent shares his stories of editing the show. He also shares some hilarious outtake stories. 

Special thanks to Vince for agreeing to be on the show with us.

“I just started cursing at them in Yiddish, and they weren’t very fond of that.” ~Michelle Hammer

In this episode, Michelle speaks openly about her three involuntary detentions, twice for suicide attempts and once for suicidal tendencies. Gabe talks about his one experience in the psych ward, where he was on suicide watch. He discusses why he never realized he was sick until he went to the hospital. Gabe and Michelle then look back upon their time spent, and share what they’ve learned.

Our hosts decide to play two truths and a lie for the second time. Each tell unbelievable stories in an effort to trick each other!

Gabe tells stories of psych ward experiences, including making a dream board about wanting a Rolex, a woman trying to have sex with him, and falling asleep in the shower.

Michelle shares college stories of getting in a fight in a lacrosse game, flipping out on a cheating boyfriend, and lastly, being picked up and tossed out of a bar.

Which ones do you think are true?

Gabe (Bipolar) and Michelle (Schizophrenic) discuss personal and public topics that bother them in society. 

Michelle shares her frustration with being accused of lying about having schizophrenia. 

Gabe talks about feeling like a marked man when he applies for jobs because of his bipolar disorder. 

Both try to come up with a new name for anti-psychotics medications, and discuss frustration with other people’s opinions of potentially spreading mental illness to their children.

Gabe Howard (Bipolar) and Michelle Hammer (Schizophrenic) talk about mental health in the current media and pop culture. Michelle talks about stigma and tells a story of Instagram insults.  Gabe talks about being accused of not being bipolar and shares his story of binge eating disorder. Both hosts disclose and discuss what it feels like to lead a public life with mental illness -- and how being discriminated against feels badly.

Gabe Howard (bipolar) and Michelle Hammer (schizophrenic) ask each other questions that they must also answer themselves.  They ask about their diagnoses, dealing with symptoms, telling other people about their diagnoses, and where they think they would each be today if they weren’t straddled with mental illness. Find out what Michelle’s friends said when she told them about her schizophrenia. What do you think both of their moms think about their grown children's medication?

Gabe Howard (Bipolar) and Michelle Hammer (Schizophrenic) decide to play 2 Truths and a Lie. Each tells 3 remarkable stories of the past. Hear Gabe’s stories of Demi Lovato, after-hours strip clubs, and bar fights. Hear Michelle’s of dating hell, apartment fires, and medication hallucination.

[3.00] First Stories: “DEMI L” vs. “CRAZY CHICK”

[6:50]  Second Stories: “GABE’S FIGHT STORY” vs.  “FIRE WEED”

[14:20] Third Stories: “STRIP CLUB MANNERS” vs. “SPIDER TIGER”