Jordan introduces an audio recording he found of his late wife, Amy, sharing about the joy she has in knowing the complete story of life and death.

Jordan talks about his recent solo travels and how it's brought mixed feelings of joy and grief. Jason describes his journey with depression and anxiety, including what's helped him along the way and where he's finding hope.

Jason and Jordan introduce their stories and share what led them to start a podcast together. This episode covers topics of health, friendship, loss, and hope.