Successful real estate lawyer and friend of the show, Laine Mervis, joins John and Jason this week for another amazing conversation. Laine discusses balancing work and spirituality along with his own struggles and tribulations during his time  at the University of Santa Monica.

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We have a special one today, everyone! Jason surprises John with their old friend and roommate from the good ol' days, Mark Dunn. Mark Dunn is a very talented artist, musician, actor, and father in New York. Join us as these old friends share laughs, tears, and lessons learned.


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This Week John and Jason are thrilled to share a wonderful and moving conversation with Mark Anthony Lord. Mark is an author, artist, and currently the Senior Minister of Unity Naples in Florida. Visit his website http://www.markanthonylord.me



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Ed "The Word" Biagiotti joins John and Jason for an amazing freewheeling conversation. Edward is an Educational Specialist, musician, avid surfer and host of the podcast
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PEOPLE!!! So excited to share the new and continuing evolution of Not The Norm! Our first guest, Barry Clark, is a writer, producer, and professional life coach and we are thrilled that he joined us for a wonderful conversation!

Check out Barry Clark's Book "Living Life Now" on Amazon and listen to his podcast of the same name wherever you listen to podcasts.


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John and Jason are back for season 2!

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Do Not Fear!!! We will see you all early 2021 and we will still be available through our email below!!

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Join John and Jason this week as they talk about a wide range of topics.

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A fun and freewheeling conversation this week as John and Jason discuss their week, emotions, and the gifts we can find when we are down.


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Have you or a loved one been triggered by an opposing view recently? Join the J's as they discuss the difficulties of dealing with those pesky triggers, the Dyer Dozen, and the source of course.

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