Disclaimer: the incidental recording at the beginning of this podcast should in now way be construed as trying to swaggerjack John and Paul. The music was inadvertently playing in the background, have no idea how it made it in.

With my attempts to avoid litigation out of the way, it was a good catch up episode cause Roma and I have been working hard getting in the reps for 5 Alarm. Romas working on her first display board and is she ever excited….