In the riveting Part 6A of "No Way, Jose!", titled "The Memory Gospel," host Jose Galison delves into Dr. Wendy Painting’s latest research on the Oklahoma City Bombing, focusing on the enigmatic encounter between Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols, and the mysterious "Jacques" at Maloney’s Realty in Cassville, Missouri. Dr. Painting meticulously recaps the accounts of three realty employees and the FBI’s subsequent investigation, which included the extraordinary use of a military psychologist specializing in intelligence and counter-intelligence to hypnotize one witness. The episode explores anomalies in the Jacques investigation, particularly the FBI’s handling of a composite drawing of Jacques, marked as "NEED TO KNOW," and questions the agency’s decisions and apparent oversights. Through close reading and literary deconstruction, Dr. Painting dissects the witnesses’ statements and media coverage, revealing inconsistencies that challenge later attempts to debunk the Maloney incident and expose weaknesses in the FBI’s approach.

Jose Galison guides listeners through Dr. Painting’s analysis, which highlights how changes in the Maloney witnesses’ accounts over time undermine debunking efforts and point to deeper issues in the investigation. The title "The Memory Gospel" pays homage to the 2006 film Southland Tales, a personal touchstone for Dr. Painting that resonates with the themes of memory and manipulation in this thread. "NWJ 581" offers a thought-provoking exploration of these overlooked aspects of the OKC bombing case, questioning the official narrative and inviting listeners to reconsider the significance of the Jacques encounter. Tune in to "No Way, Jose!" for a compelling dive into Dr. Painting’s research, as Jose unpacks the complexities of memory, evidence, and investigation in one of America’s most haunting tragedies.


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