Cam talks to Willie Lio from Perth to discuss standout players in Round 4 Super Rugby Pacific, focusing on their performances and contributions to their teams. They analyze game strategies, the impact of coaching on team dynamics, and the prospects of the Blues in the championship. The conversation also highlights the resilience and playing style of the Fijian team, as well as the importance of community engagement and logistics in supporting teams. In this conversation, Willie and Cam discuss various aspects of rugby, focusing on the cultural dynamics in Perth, the performance of the Moana team, and the challenges they face in upcoming matches. They analyze specific games, highlight emerging talents, and reflect on coaching decisions that impact team dynamics. The conversation also touches on the current standings in the league and the struggles of the Hurricanes, providing insights into player development and team strategies.