In this second podcast in the series on the 'Odes of Solomon,' Natalie Renee Perkins and Deborah Saxon chat together about Natalie's contemporary musical setting of some of the odes. Deb, a scholar of ancient Christian texts, explains the feminine imagery, the reference to Sophia (Wisdom), and the purpose of ancient hymns used by both Jews and Christians before they diverged. Natalie, a professional singer, writer, and composer, plays some of her contemporary music settings of the Odes.