Hello Everyone and welcome to the very special series of Off The Blocks Swimming Podcast from the United States of America.

Each week we will bring you episodes, either with myself and travel mate Dapto Swim Club Head Coach Phil MciLwraith, or interviews with some of America's best and experienced coaches and athletes including Herbie Behm, Vern Gambetta and many more.

In this episode we chat with Arizona State Head Coach Herbie Behm live from the 2025 ASCA World Clinic. Herbie shares with us his coaching philosophies and how he structures his season. We talk about coaching legends Bob Bowman and Dave Salo, what he learned from working with Leon Marchand. The challenges of being a head coach, being creative with your programming and a whole lot more.