After years of watching unspeakably awful movies, Jonathan and Graham pose the question, "When is a movie not even worth mentioning at all?" We also discuss whether the broadened ability to produce a film is a positive or negative evolution for cinema and whether or not we like Terrence Malick films. Oh yeah, we watched RISE OF THE UNDEAD that includes standing around in a storage facility fronting as a government facility, easily defeated zombies, and a floating water-electricity monster.