We're kicking off Magic Month with our 4th Anniversary spectacular, an XXL episode featuring one of our favorite tunes by one of our favorite artists, Ben Rector. "Old Friends" (from the album Magic) couldn't be a more perfect fit for us to celebrate the 4th birthday of the Great Song Podcast, and Ben couldn't have been a better guest. Also:

- JP sleep-calling his 8th-grade crush

- Triple Stump the Genius

- Ben Rector on writing “open-handed”

Thank you as always for listening and supporting, and here's to the next 4 years of faaaantastic!

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Co-producers: Andrea Konarzewski, Ari Marucci, Brad Callahan, Michael Conley, Peter Mark Campbell, David Steinberg, Randy Hodge, Chaz Bacus, Juan Lopez and Game of Throws