This week’s episode of the Aaron Rupar Show features one of my favorite guests yet — Oliver Willis, the OG progressive blogger and author of the highly recommended Oliver Willis Explains Substack.

We chop it up about how pro wrestling helps explain modern American politics, “old and busted Donald Trump” and his need for a fresh gimmick, why CNN’s Trump town hall is a desperation move that will likely backfire, Dark Brandon’s incredible babyface heat, and much more.

Oliver is not only very insightful, but he nearly made me spit out my coffee at a couple different points. Listen to the audio of our conversation above, or watch the footage below via my YouTube page.

Next week’s show will feature political scientist and authoritarianism scholar Brian Klaas. If you’ve missed any of the previous nine episodes, you can check out the full archive here.

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