For this episode, I’ve taken a bit of a side track but a very important one. My guests are Ron Finkel AO and Dr Jamal Rifi AM of Project Rozana, an Australian founded, international NGO that delivers on ground emergency and critical health care to Palestinians, particularly children, in the West Bank, Jerusalem and Gaza but crucially, through joint initiatives between Israelis and Palestinians, guided by their overarching vision of our shared humanity .  They believe health is a fundamental human right.  I’ve been trying to make a modest contribution to Project Rozana, helping them to raise emergency medical funds for the people of Gaza and thought it would be good for you the listeners, to hear directly from Ron and Jamal about their important work.

If you can, please donate. You can find the donation page here:

https://project rozana.org.au

Music: Palestinian singer/songwriter Kamilya Jubran, vocal and Oud, song: 'Rafif' from the album 'Makan'.

My guest this week is Professor Sharon Sullivan AO. 

At 80 years old, Professor Sullivan, remains an intellectual firebrand. She continues to bring energy and commitment to not only protecting Australia’s cultural landscapes but educating the broader global public of their enormous cultural value. 

Professor Sullivan, has had a distinguished career in cultural heritage management and is a former Executive Director of the Australian Heritage Commission and a former member of the World Heritage Committee. She is the author of five books and fifty papers, contributing to the development of cultural heritage management in Australia, and internationally including in the USA, China, Africa and Cambodia for over 40 years. 

She is the deputy Chair of the NSW Heritage Council and Chair of the Port Arthur Heritage Sites Authority. Sharon has been awarded an Honorary Doctorate from James Cook University and the University of New England and has been appointed an Officer in the Order of Australia and a life member of UNESCOS’s ICOMOS, for services to heritage conservation. She has been awarded the Rhys Jones Memorial Medal for Services to Archaeology.

In this episode, I continue tracing the origins of the Indigenous ranger program but this time by looking at the evolution of cultural resource management, at a time when nature and culture were still seen as oppositional concepts and Indigenous people were still excluded from having any control or jurisdiction over their traditional landscapes and sites.

From the late 1960’s through the 70’s and 80’s, Professor Sullivan, together with her Indigenous colleagues, Ray Kelly, Glen Morris, Terry Donavan, Badger Bates, David Crew and Jenny Carrol, virtually invented the field of modern, collaborative cultural resource management, radically changing the way Indigenous heritage was valued assessed and protected.  Their work laid the foundation for placing Indigenous people at the centre of cultural landscape management in Australia. 

Denis Rose is a highly respected Gunditjmara man. As far as we know, he was the first Indigenous person ever employed as a a National Park Ranger. Over a lifelong career, he has played a catalytic role in developing the Indigenous Protected Area Program and continues to work, to both manage country and improve the lives of all Indigenous people. We discuss his early life, the ups and downs as a young park ranger and the development of the IPA program.

In this first episode, I speak with Dermot Smyth, a cultural ecologist who helped establish the first, independent, Indigenous ranger program on Palm Island, Queensland in 1983. We discuss the challenges First Nations people faced and the evolution of both the Indigenous ranger and Indigenous protected area programs. From its humble beginnings, to a national success story, the programs now employ over 2,000 Indigenous rangers who are responsible for managing approx. 87 million hectares of the Australian landscape. We also discuss how these governance structures provide a successful example for how 'the Voice to Parliament' could operate if the YES vote wins in the upcoming national referendum on 14 October 2023.