On The Edge Podcast with Scott Groves

David Luxton shares his Loan Officer expertise with Scott's coaching clients

In this crosspost episode from the Expansive CEO Podcast, On the Edge host Scott Groves steps into the guest seat for a candid conversation with Hannah Chapman—Founder of X² Wealth Planning and Expansive CEO, and a financial advisor helping visionary entrepreneurs align business, energy, and investing. Together, they unpack why traditional sales tactics like scripts, objection handling, and pressure closes are failing today’s high-performance professionals—and what to do instead. From replacing sales calls with exploratory conversations to building referral-based pipelines and using permission-based marketing, this episode offers a fresh, practical roadmap for entrepreneurs, real estate pros, financial advisors, and service providers selling high-ticket offers. If you're ready to sell the way you serve, turn leads into raving fans, and build a business that feels aligned—not pushy—this conversation is packed with actionable insights you won’t want to miss.

Chapters:

• 00:00:00 - Welcome to On the Edge
• 00:00:51 - Meet Scott Groves: From Sales Warrior to Sales Coach
• 00:01:48 - From Combat Boots to Closing Deals
• 00:02:20 - Reinventing Sales Training for Real Results
• 00:02:51 - Why Relationships Beat Scripts Every Time
• 00:03:32 - Hannah’s Sales Story: The Struggle Before the Shift
• 00:05:06 - Sales Calls Are Dead — Here’s What Works Instead
• 00:11:33 - The Most Powerful Word in Sales? “No.”
• 00:18:28 - Are You Marketing with Permission or Pushing Too Hard?
• 00:21:57 - Does Your Sales Process Match How You Serve?
• 00:24:00 - A Quick Word from Our Sponsor
• 00:24:43 - What We Really Offer Behind the Scenes
• 00:25:07 - What Authenticity Looks Like in Sales
• 00:25:45 - Want Better Clients? Build Real Relationships
• 00:27:28 - A CEO’s Phone Number Changed Everything
• 00:30:24 - Financial Planning Isn’t About Numbers—It’s About People
• 00:45:22 - Alignment Isn’t a Buzzword—It’s the Strategy
• 00:46:59 - Wrap-Up + Where to Connect with Us

Links & Resources:

• Website: Expansive CEO
• Financial Advisory Firm: X² Wealth Planning
• LinkedIn: Hannah Chapman

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This podcast is paid for and brought to you by.... by me, Scott Groves :-) 

Because I think these kind of long form conversations are valuable, I pay for 100% of the production of this show out of my pocket. This channel is FAR from monetization and because of the subject matter, may never be monetized. 

I am a Mortgage Loan Officer & Loan Officer Coach in real life. It's the money that I earn, from helping home-buyers and home-owners obtain home-loans, that pays for this show. If you, your friends, or your family are looking for a home loan from an honest Loan Officer, please contact me at [email protected] or find all my links to connect HERE:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠www.LinkTr.ee/ScottLGroves⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

I can do the loan for you (our team is licensed in 8 states) - OR - I can refer you to an amazing loan officer in the state where you're searching. ON WITH THE SHOW!!!

New Full Episodes are released every other Tuesday at 10:00am and clips are released frequently throughout the week. SO MAKE SURE YOU SUBSCRIBE!!! 

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Thank you for checking out the Podcast. We're building our community AS WE SPEAK and would love it if you checked us out in one of our communities:

On The Edge Podcast Community & Facebook Group on Facebook:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠https://www.facebook.com/groups/ontheedgepodcast/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

On The Edge Podcast Page on Facebook:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠https://www.facebook.com/MeetScottGroves⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

On The Edge Podcast on Locals:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠https://reddotbluestate.locals.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Instagram:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠www.Instagram.com/ScottLGroves⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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Plastic is killing the planet — or so we’ve been told. In this episode, Scott Groves sits down with Dr. Chris DeArmitt — the scientist behind The Plastics Paradox — to dismantle myths we’ve been fed for decades. From the “floating island” that doesn’t exist, to the lie that you’re eating a credit card of plastic every week, Chris backs every claim with real data — 5,000 studies deep. This is the truth about bags, bottles, microplastics panic, and why billionaires, NGOs, and headlines keep feeding the fear. If you think you know the truth about plastic, this episode will challenge everything.

Chapters: 

• 00:00:00 - Welcome and Bold Kickoff
• 00:00:56 - Accents, Upbringing, and Humor
• 00:02:54 - Meet the Myth-Buster: Chris DeArmitt
• 00:03:39 - Kicking Open the Plastic Controversy
• 00:05:10 - How a Scientist Fell for Plastics
• 00:06:14 - What Really Happens When Plastic Breaks Down
• 00:11:09 - The Real Lifecycle Impact Nobody Tells You
• 00:21:02 - Microplastics Panic: Fact vs Fiction
• 00:24:41 - The Fake Floating Island Exposed
• 00:33:02 - Why Plastic Waste Is a People Problem
• 00:37:13 - The Hidden Materials in Your Home
• 00:37:49 - Surprising Praise for the Plastic We Hate
• 00:39:29 - Burying the Biggest Plastic Myths
• 00:40:42 - Are Alternatives Worse for the Planet?
• 00:45:58 - Microplastics: The Truth and the Hype
• 00:58:54 - What’s Actually Threatening Our Health?
• 01:08:01 - Why Science and Evidence Matter
• 01:10:20 - Final Thoughts and Real Takeaways

Links and Resources:

• Phantom Plastics
• Free Book — Shattering the Plastics Illusion
• Connect with Dr. Chris DeArmitt on LinkedIn

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This podcast is paid for and brought to you by.... by me, Scott Groves :-) 

Because I think these kind of long form conversations are valuable, I pay for 100% of the production of this show out of my pocket. This channel is FAR from monetization and because of the subject matter, may never be monetized. 

I am a Mortgage Loan Officer & Loan Officer Coach in real life. It's the money that I earn, from helping home-buyers and home-owners obtain home-loans, that pays for this show. If you, your friends, or your family are looking for a home loan from an honest Loan Officer, please contact me at [email protected] or find all my links to connect HERE:⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠www.LinkTr.ee/ScottLGroves⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

I can do the loan for you (our team is licensed in 8 states) - OR - I can refer you to an amazing loan officer in the state where you're searching. ON WITH THE SHOW!!!

New Full Episodes are released every other Tuesday at 10:00am and clips are released frequently throughout the week. SO MAKE SURE YOU SUBSCRIBE!!! 

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Thank you for checking out the Podcast. We're building our community AS WE SPEAK and would love it if you checked us out in one of our communities:

On The Edge Podcast Community & Facebook Group on Facebook:⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠https://www.facebook.com/groups/ontheedgepodcast/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

On The Edge Podcast Page on Facebook:⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠https://www.facebook.com/MeetScottGroves⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

On The Edge Podcast on Locals:⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠https://reddotbluestate.locals.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Instagram:⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠www.Instagram.com/ScottLGroves⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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From cleaning toilets at 2AM to coaching high-level executives, Marcel Clarke shares how chasing success nearly broke him—until he burned it all down to rebuild with purpose. In this raw conversation with Scott Groves, Marcel unpacks the cost of “cosplaying success,” why most men are stuck in roles that don’t serve them, and how courage and consistency became his blueprint for authentic leadership. If you’re succeeding on paper but misaligned in life, this is your wake-up call.

Chapters: 

• 00:00:00 - Welcome to the On the Edge Podcast
• 00:00:14 - How Marcel’s Family Shaped His Hustle
• 00:01:47 - From Struggle to Strategy: The First Pivot
• 00:03:49 - Hustling, Surviving, and Thinking Bigger
• 00:08:26 - Balancing Books and the Block
• 00:12:26 - Rock Bottom Moments That Built a Man
• 00:18:55 - Chasing Legitimacy: First Legal Wins
• 00:23:21 - Passion vs. Paycheck: Choosing Both
• 00:32:06 - Learning to Lead with the Bills Paid
• 00:33:17 - Building Black Excellence in Business
• 00:36:17 - Cultural Conditioning, Cash, and Clarity
• 00:40:54 - Managing Chaos Across Multiple Hustles
• 00:48:16 - Mentorship That Actually Hits Different
• 00:53:01 - Speaking Truth in Today’s Divided Climate
• 00:59:44 - Real Ones Only: Final Word from Marcel

Links and Resources:

• Website: https://www.marcelclarke.co/
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marcelclarke_/

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This podcast is paid for and brought to you by.... by me, Scott Groves :-) 

Because I think these kind of long form conversations are valuable, I pay for 100% of the production of this show out of my pocket. This channel is FAR from monetization and because of the subject matter, may never be monetized. 

I am a Mortgage Loan Officer & Loan Officer Coach in real life. It's the money that I earn, from helping home-buyers and home-owners obtain home-loans, that pays for this show. If you, your friends, or your family are looking for a home loan from an honest Loan Officer, please contact me at [email protected] or find all my links to connect HERE:⁠⁠⁠ ⁠www.LinkTr.ee/ScottLGroves⁠⁠⁠⁠

I can do the loan for you (our team is licensed in 8 states) - OR - I can refer you to an amazing loan officer in the state where you're searching. ON WITH THE SHOW!!!

New Full Episodes are released every other Tuesday at 10:00am and clips are released frequently throughout the week. SO MAKE SURE YOU SUBSCRIBE!!! 

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Thank you for checking out the Podcast. We're building our community AS WE SPEAK and would love it if you checked us out in one of our communities:

On The Edge Podcast Community & Facebook Group on Facebook:⁠⁠⁠ ⁠https://www.facebook.com/groups/ontheedgepodcast/⁠⁠⁠⁠

On The Edge Podcast Page on Facebook:⁠⁠⁠ ⁠https://www.facebook.com/MeetScottGroves⁠⁠⁠⁠

On The Edge Podcast on Locals:⁠⁠⁠ ⁠https://reddotbluestate.locals.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠

Instagram:⁠⁠⁠ ⁠www.Instagram.com/ScottLGroves⁠⁠⁠⁠

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Scott Groves welcomes back Robert Haglund—Air Force veteran, conservative radio producer, and author of Rescuing the American Project. Together, they rip into the myths surrounding nationalism, immigration, and globalism in 2025. They explore how America’s founding ideals—not race or identity politics—must fuel the country’s revival, and why the future depends on bold immigration reform paired with national pride. Drawing from real-world military, political, and cultural battlegrounds, Rob and Scott leave no stone unturned as they challenge conventional wisdom, expose political hypocrisy, and offer a tough-love roadmap for those serious about personal growth and saving the Republic. 🔥

Chapters:

• 00:00:00 - Kicking Off: Meet Robert Haglund
• 00:01:27 - Why the Left Flipped on the Border
• 00:07:27 - What the Right Gets Wrong on Immigration
• 00:16:33 - Nationalism Isn’t a Dirty Word
• 00:27:21 - How WWII Shaped the Globalist Mindset
• 00:37:48 - Empathy Outsourced: The Cost of Caring from Afar
• 00:39:11 - Local Problems, Global Distractions
• 00:40:18 - Who’s Minding the Home Front?
• 00:42:36 - Feelings vs. Responsibility: The Empathy Trap
• 00:43:51 - Demographics Don’t Lie: Can Immigration Save Us?
• 00:48:31 - Reclaiming the American Dream Through Merit
• 00:51:22 - Libertarian Vision Meets Political Reality
• 01:04:07 - Slow Collapse: Are We Managing Decline or Causing It?
• 01:12:14 - Why Illegal Immigration Is the Worst of All Worlds
• 01:14:57 - What Fuels Immigration Resentment in America
• 01:15:19 - When Irony and Racism Collide at the Border
• 01:18:29 - Immigration Economics: Who Really Pays?
• 01:21:38 - Two Roads: Legal Entry vs. the Shadows
• 01:23:12 - Tragedy at the Border: Real Human Costs
• 01:27:52 - The Cultural Glue: Can Newcomers Assimilate?
• 01:35:24 - What Nationalism Really Means for American Values
• 01:39:41 - Divide and Conquer: How Politics Weaponizes Identity
• 01:54:59 - Final Take: The Case for Smart Immigration Reform

Links and Resources:

• Rescuing the American Project: How Nationalism and Immigration Will Revive the Republic (Book)

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This podcast is paid for and brought to you by.... by me, Scott Groves :-) 

Because I think these kind of long form conversations are valuable, I pay for 100% of the production of this show out of my pocket. This channel is FAR from monetization and because of the subject matter, may never be monetized. 

I am a Mortgage Loan Officer & Loan Officer Coach in real life. It's the money that I earn, from helping home-buyers and home-owners obtain home-loans, that pays for this show. If you, your friends, or your family are looking for a home loan from an honest Loan Officer, please contact me at [email protected] or find all my links to connect HERE:⁠⁠ ⁠www.LinkTr.ee/ScottLGroves⁠⁠⁠

I can do the loan for you (our team is licensed in 8 states) - OR - I can refer you to an amazing loan officer in the state where you're searching. ON WITH THE SHOW!!!

New Full Episodes are released every THURSDAY at 10:00am and clips are released frequently throughout the week. SO MAKE SURE YOU SUBSCRIBE!!! 

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Thank you for checking out the Podcast. We're building our community AS WE SPEAK and would love it if you checked us out in one of our communities:

On The Edge Podcast Community & Facebook Group on Facebook:⁠⁠ ⁠https://www.facebook.com/groups/ontheedgepodcast/⁠⁠⁠

On The Edge Podcast Page on Facebook:⁠⁠ ⁠https://www.facebook.com/MeetScottGroves⁠⁠⁠

On The Edge Podcast on Locals:⁠⁠ ⁠https://reddotbluestate.locals.com/⁠⁠⁠

Instagram:⁠⁠ ⁠www.Instagram.com/ScottLGroves⁠⁠⁠

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What happens when a globe-trotting entrepreneur lands in the wrong place at the wrong time? In this jaw-dropping episode, Scott Groves sits down with Sam Goodwin—a man who set out to visit every country in the world and ended up locked in a Syrian military prison. What unfolds is part spy thriller, part spiritual reckoning. From coaching hockey in North Korea to surviving 62 days in solitary confinement, Sam shares the wildest travel story you’ve never heard. The conversation dives into the power of faith under pressure, navigating extreme uncertainty, and why gratitude may be your most rebellious act. If you're a high-achiever hungry for hard-won wisdom, this one hits differently.

Chapters:

• 00:00:00 – Welcome to the Edge: Meet Sam Goodwin

• 00:00:44 – 193 Countries, One Relentless Mission

• 00:01:08 – How a Trip to Syria Turned Into a Nightmare

• 00:02:00 – Wild Stories from the Edge of the Map

• 00:07:26 – How He Traveled the World on Spare Change

• 00:10:59 – The Risk Factor: When Travel Gets Real

• 00:17:23 – Black SUVs, Blindfolds, and Bashar al-Assad

• 00:23:08 – Locked in a Dungeon: How He Stayed Sane

• 00:31:47 – Faith in the Dark: Prayers Behind Bars

• 00:32:34 – (Sponsor Break – Mortgage + Coaching)

• 00:33:42 – 30 Days of Silence and Boiled Potatoes

• 00:35:27 – Out of the Cell, Into the Chaos

• 00:36:00 – Finding Brotherhood in a Syrian Prison

• 00:40:30 – The Phone Call That Set Him Free

• 00:42:21 – FBI, CIA, and a Family on the Brink

• 00:45:29 – Two Stephs, One Shot at Freedom

• 00:48:09 – What Captivity Taught Him About Life

• 00:55:42 – He Wasn’t Done Yet: The Final 12 Countries

• 00:58:10 – What’s Next for Sam Goodwin?

Links and Resources:

• Website: https://www.samrgoodwin.com/

• Sam on LinkedIn

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This podcast is paid for and brought to you by.... by me, Scott Groves :-) 

Because I think these kind of long form conversations are valuable, I pay for 100% of the production of this show out of my pocket. This channel is FAR from monetization and because of the subject matter, may never be monetized. 

I am a Mortgage Loan Officer & Loan Officer Coach in real life. It's the money that I earn, from helping home-buyers and home-owners obtain home-loans, that pays for this show. If you, your friends, or your family are looking for a home loan from an honest Loan Officer, please contact me at [email protected] or find all my links to connect HERE:⁠ ⁠www.LinkTr.ee/ScottLGroves⁠⁠

I can do the loan for you (our team is licensed in 8 states) - OR - I can refer you to an amazing loan officer in the state where you're searching. ON WITH THE SHOW!!!

New Full Episodes are released every THURSDAY at 10:00am and clips are released frequently throughout the week. SO MAKE SURE YOU SUBSCRIBE!!! 

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Thank you for checking out the Podcast. We're building our community AS WE SPEAK and would love it if you checked us out in one of our communities:

On The Edge Podcast Community & Facebook Group on Facebook:⁠ ⁠https://www.facebook.com/groups/ontheedgepodcast/⁠⁠

On The Edge Podcast Page on Facebook:⁠ ⁠https://www.facebook.com/MeetScottGroves⁠⁠

On The Edge Podcast on Locals:⁠ ⁠https://reddotbluestate.locals.com/⁠⁠

Instagram:⁠ ⁠www.Instagram.com/ScottLGroves⁠⁠

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⁠⁠www.OnTheEdgePodcast.com⁠⁠

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Do YOU or SOMEBODY YOU KNOW want to be featured in the podcast? 

Questions, inquiries, booking a show? 

Any topics or people you'd like us to cover?

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⁠[email protected]⁠

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Scott dives deep with Jeff Nelson—author, Jiu-Jitsu black belt, and punk rock enthusiast—to explore the unexpected journey that led to the creation of his debut novel, Ninja Punks F Off. From navigating a childhood stutter to mastering storytelling through cultural obsession with Japan and intense personal trials, Jeff embodies the raw grit and intellectual curiosity that define today's high-achievers. They discuss the convergence of martial arts discipline, the allure of Japanese history, and the often misunderstood nature of fiction writing. Whether you're here for the entrepreneurial spirit, unfiltered conversation, or lessons in resilience, this episode will leave you both fired up and thinking differently about storytelling, success, and personal legacy.

Chapters:

• 00:00:00 - Meet Your Host and Dive Into Jeff Nelson’s World

• 00:01:11 - How Jeff’s Stutter Sparked a Lifelong Passion for Writing

• 00:02:42 - Anime, Samurai, and the Roots of a Cultural Obsession

• 00:03:11 - Discovering a Wild Ancestral Link to Japanese History

• 00:05:30 - Was Shogun Accurate? A Deep Nerd Dive

• 00:14:56 - The Strange Mix of Punk Rock, Homer, and Heroic Tales

• 00:25:20 - How Jiu-Jitsu Transformed Jeff’s Life and Mindset

• 00:31:35 - Building Champions: From the Mat to the Page

• 00:36:26 - Inside Jeff’s Relentless Writing Rituals

• 00:36:58 - Why Story Outlines Might Be Killing Creativity

• 00:38:00 - What Went Wrong with Disney’s Star Wars

• 00:39:01 - Trusting Instincts Over Blueprints in Storytelling

• 00:41:35 - How Yellowstone’s Fury Sparked a Creative Fire

• 00:42:59 - The Brutal, Soul-Crushing Reality of Editing

• 00:47:44 - Behind the Curtain of Today’s Publishing Industry

• 00:55:22 - Blood, Sweat, and Ninja Punks: How the Book Was Born

• 01:02:47 - Jeff’s Love Affair with the Iliad and Epic Films

• 01:08:51 - The Road Ahead: What’s Next for Jeff Nelson

Links and Resources:

• Website

• Ninja Punks, @*&% OFF!

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This podcast is paid for and brought to you by.... by me, Scott Groves :-) 

Because I think these kind of long form conversations are valuable, I pay for 100% of the production of this show out of my pocket. This channel is FAR from monetization and because of the subject matter, may never be monetized. 

I am a Mortgage Loan Officer & Loan Officer Coach in real life. It's the money that I earn, from helping home-buyers and home-owners obtain home-loans, that pays for this show. If you, your friends, or your family are looking for a home loan from an honest Loan Officer, please contact me at [email protected] or find all my links to connect HERE: ⁠www.LinkTr.ee/ScottLGroves⁠

I can do the loan for you (our team is licensed in 8 states) - OR - I can refer you to an amazing loan officer in the state where you're searching. ON WITH THE SHOW!!!

New Full Episodes are released every THURSDAY at 10:00am and clips are released frequently throughout the week. SO MAKE SURE YOU SUBSCRIBE!!! 

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Thank you for checking out the Podcast. We're building our community AS WE SPEAK and would love it if you checked us out in one of our communities:

On The Edge Podcast Community & Facebook Group on Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/groups/ontheedgepodcast/⁠

On The Edge Podcast Page on Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/MeetScottGroves⁠

On The Edge Podcast on Locals: ⁠https://reddotbluestate.locals.com/⁠

Instagram: ⁠www.Instagram.com/ScottLGroves⁠

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Questions, inquiries, booking a show? 

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When SWAT medic Casey Cheshier set out for a routine return trip from Catalina Island, he didn’t expect to collide with a whale at 60 mph — or fight for his life in open ocean. In this raw and riveting episode, Scott sits down with the LA County Sheriff's Department's elite rescue paramedic to unpack a day that turned into a survival thriller. From near-fatal leg injuries to hypothermia, a malfunctioning boat, and sheer mental grit, Casey walks us through how training, mindset, and brotherhood saved his life. We also get an inside look at LA’s elite tactical rescue teams — where jumping from helicopters, diving into bodies, and explosive breaching are just another Tuesday. This is not your average cop story. It’s a blueprint in resilience, real-world leadership, and never giving up.

Chapters:

• 00:00:00 - Welcome to the Wildest Survival Story

• 00:00:43 - From Sheriff’s Deputy to SWAT Elite

• 00:01:08 - Inside the Grueling Life of Tactical Lawmen

• 00:03:09 - Earning the Badge: No Easy Road

• 00:04:22 - Five Years in Hell: Jailhouse to Justice

• 00:08:57 - Boats, Guns, and Deep-Water Missions

• 00:14:03 - The Day a Whale Nearly Killed Me

• 00:38:35 - Blood, Bones, and Life-or-Death Decisions

• 00:39:06 - Floating and Fading: The Body Fights Back

• 00:40:43 - When Training Becomes Your Only Lifeline

• 00:41:59 - A Tourniquet, a T-Shirt, and Sheer Grit

• 00:42:36 - The Rescue Helicopter That Found Me

• 00:44:34 - Calling Home from a Hospital Gurney

• 00:48:21 - Waking Up Broken, Not Beaten

• 00:52:12 - The Painful Climb Back to Life

• 00:54:59 - Am I Still the Same Man?

• 01:20:11 - The Heel Bone You Can’t Replace

• 01:20:48 - Building a Foot with Science

• 01:23:07 - Bureaucracy vs. Survival: The Compensation Battle

• 01:33:44 - Physical Rehab and Mental Warfare

• 01:42:06 - Back in Uniform, Scarred But Strong

• 01:48:10 - What Comes After You Beat Death?

Links and Resources:

• Casey on LinkedIn

• Casey on Instagram

• Treading Water: Survival and Surviving the Recovery

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This podcast is paid for and brought to you by.... by me, Scott Groves :-) 

Because I think these kind of long form conversations are valuable, I pay for 100% of the production of this show out of my pocket. This channel is FAR from monetization and because of the subject matter, may never be monetized. 

I am a Mortgage Loan Officer & Loan Officer Coach in real life. It's the money that I earn, from helping home-buyers and home-owners obtain home-loans, that pays for this show. If you, your friends, or your family are looking for a home loan from an honest Loan Officer, please contact me at [email protected] or find all my links to connect HERE: www.LinkTr.ee/ScottLGroves

I can do the loan for you (our team is licensed in 8 states) - OR - I can refer you to an amazing loan officer in the state where you're searching. ON WITH THE SHOW!!!

New Full Episodes are released every THURSDAY at 10:00am and clips are released frequently throughout the week. SO MAKE SURE YOU SUBSCRIBE!!! 

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Thank you for checking out the Podcast. We're building our community AS WE SPEAK and would love it if you checked us out in one of our communities:

On The Edge Podcast Community & Facebook Group on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ontheedgepodcast/

On The Edge Podcast Page on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MeetScottGroves

On The Edge Podcast on Locals: https://reddotbluestate.locals.com/

Instagram: www.Instagram.com/ScottLGroves

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www.OnTheEdgePodcast.com

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Do YOU or SOMEBODY YOU KNOW want to be featured in the podcast? 

Questions, inquiries, booking a show? 

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[email protected]

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In this high-octane episode of On The Edge with Scott Groves, we meet Josh Saunders—rugby savage turned jiu-jitsu black belt and founder of HPU Athletic. Josh breaks down what it takes to become a world-class competitor on and off the mats, detailing his transformation from injured athlete to elite grappler and business owner. With raw honesty and no-bullshit insights, he dives into how mastery in BJJ mirrors business success, the myth of motivation, and why consistency trumps talent every time. Whether you're an athlete, entrepreneur, or someone grinding for greatness, this episode delivers the mindset strategies, battle scars, and real talk you need to win.

Chapters:

• 00:00:00 - Savage Origins: The Most Reluctant Tesla Owner Meets the Mat

• 00:02:03 - From Bone Breaks to Belt Ranks: Why Rugby Had to Die for Jiujitsu to Live

• 00:04:44 - Training Clients, Hating Life: The Wake-Up Call That Launched HPU

• 00:07:57 - No Time to Suck: How Josh Hacked the BJJ Learning Curve

• 00:13:09 - When Obsession Becomes Career: Building a Life Around Jiujitsu

• 00:22:19 - Underdogs Down Under: The Raw Truth About Australian BJJ

• 00:26:17 - Sharks Only: What Happens When You Roll with the Best on Earth

• 00:29:32 - Armbar Economics: Why Jiujitsu Is the Ultimate Business Teacher

• 00:35:21 - No Plan B: Leaving Security to Bet Everything on the Grind

• 00:36:07 - Fight or Fold: The Daily Sparring Match Between Business and BJJ

• 00:36:42 - Build Ugly, Build Now: The Power of Launching Before You're Ready

• 00:37:35 - Your Niche Isn’t Too Small—You’re Just Playing Too Soft

• 00:37:52 - Business Chaos Therapy: How Josh Handles Fires Without Folding

• 00:38:24 - Selling Dog Blankets and Eating Shit: The Humble Start to a Killer Brand

• 00:40:15 - Start Ugly, Stay Consistent: Why Most People Never Win

• 00:41:28 - Hand-Delivering T-Shirts and Other Entrepreneurial Hazing Rituals

• 00:44:29 - From Solo Hustler to Global Tribe: The Rise of the HPU Brotherhood

• 00:55:05 - Stop Searching for Motivation—Start Building Discipline

• 01:01:36 - You're Not Failing—You're Just Afraid to Succeed

• 01:07:05 - Proof in the Parking Lot: Growth You Can Actually See

• 01:07:22 - The Culture That Builds Killers: Inside the Gym That Raised Josh

• 01:08:15 - Want to Be a Champion? Here's What You're Not Doing Yet

• 01:10:18 - Burn the Boats: What It Really Takes to Go All-In

• 01:16:52 - Drilling Wars: Why Your Favorite Training Method Might Be Holding You Back

• 01:27:33 - Bigger Plans, Bigger Pressure: What Josh Is Chasing in 2025

• 01:31:47 - From Gladiators to Gladiator: Final Thoughts and Film Favorites

Links and Resources:

Josh on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hpucoaching/?hl=en

HPU Athletic on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hpuathletic/?hl=en

HPU Athletic: https://hpuathletic.com/en-us

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Quickly- I'm Scott Groves - Husband, Father, Loan Officer, Coach, Author, Podcaster, and Blue Belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. I gave up boxing, where I was 5-0 in amateur fights, when I turned 40. BJJ is safer for old men than getting punched in the head :-) 

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Because I think these kind of long form conversations are valuable, I pay for 100% of the production of this show out of my pocket.  This channel is FAR from monetization and because of the subject matter, may never be monetized. 

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I can do the loan for you (our team is licensed in 8 states) - OR - I can refer you to an amazing loan officer in the state where you're searching. ON WITH THE SHOW!!!

In this hard-hitting episode of On The Edge, host Scott Groves sits down with Fred Mastro, founder of Mastro Defence System (MDS), and Frank Beels, the man who trained him. Together, they expose the harsh truths of real-world violence, revealing why sport-based martial arts often fail in life-or-death situations. From knife defense and street fights to executive protection and high-risk security, they break down what it really takes to survive.

They also unveil details about their upcoming Los Angeles seminar on May 3rd and 4th, where skeptics and martial artists alike will have the chance to test themselves against the brutal effectiveness of MDS.

Chapters:

• 00:00:00 - Kicking Off: Why This Episode Will Change How You See Self-Defense

• 00:00:51 - Meet Fred Mastro: The Man Who Trains Fighters, VIPs, and Bodyguards

• 00:03:41 - From Martial Arts to Street Survival: The Evolution of Combat Training

• 00:07:43 - What a Real Fight Looks Like: Brutal Street Combat Scenarios

• 00:10:54 - Adapt or Get Hurt: Why One-Style Fighters Are at Risk

• 00:25:26 - The Warrior Mindset: How to Think Like a Survivor

• 00:30:31 - Respect vs. Reality: Breaking Down Threats Like a Pro

• 00:31:28 - The Truth About Street Violence: What Most People Get Wrong

• 00:32:13 - De-escalation Tactics: When Talking is the Best Self-Defense

• 00:32:55 - Fighting in the Cold: How Weather Changes Combat

• 00:33:28 - MDS vs. BJJ: What Each Style Gets Right and Wrong

• 00:34:03 - Why People No Longer Fear Authority & What That Means for You

• 00:35:23 - Chokes That Work: The Fastest Way to End a Fight

• 00:36:18 - When to Go All In: How to Know When It’s Time to Strike

• 00:37:26 - The Best Fighting Styles to Mix for Real-World Self-Defense

• 00:38:25 - The Power of Elbows: Why They’re More Lethal Than a Fist

• 00:40:35 - False Confidence in Martial Arts: The Dunning-Kruger Effect at Play

• 00:44:23 - The Rise of MDS: Why It’s Becoming the Go-To Self-Defense System

• 00:46:01 - Versatility is Key: Why One-Style Fighters Are at a Disadvantage

• 00:47:18 - Training for Reality: How to Prepare for an Unpredictable Attack

• 00:50:20 - Situational Awareness: Spotting Trouble Before It Finds You

• 00:56:43 - MDS in Action: How to Learn These Skills at an Upcoming Seminar

Links and Resources:

Mastro Defence System Self-Defense Training with MDS founder FRED MASTRO!: https://tinyurl.com/4knp3zj4

Mastro Defence System: https://mastrodefencesystem.com/en/

Frank Beels on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frank-beels-429343195/

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