This is a follow-up conversation with Emanuel Prinz about his book “What Actually Starts Movements.” I had some additional questions to ask, and I think you’ll enjoy these key insights about teams, insiders/outsiders, and funding. (Check out minute marks below for specific topics).

Here is our previous conversation: https://pheaney.substack.com/p/what-actually-starts-movements

Minute Marks

APEST and Catalytic Teams 4:23

Outsiders vs Insiders 12:42

Where does the money come from? 19:56

Compassion ministry in Western contexts 23:31

* An example of a compassion ministry in Western contexts: Kintsugi Hope - https://www.kintsugihope.com/

Avoiding Reductionism 27:41

* Movement Servants https://www.catalyticleadership.info/post/39-who-can-start-a-movement

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When I have conversations with Emanuel Prinz, I feel like I’m sitting down with the equivalent of Jim Collins in the business world. Instead of being satisfied with anecdotal stories, he and a research team have dug into hundreds of Gospel-movements worldwide to see what is actually happening and how we can emulate it.

Emanuel Prinz helps ministries grow to movements. Find out more: www.catalyticleadership.info.

Find the book we talked about today, "What Actually Starts Movements," on Amazon.

Check out his blog & podcast at emanuelprinz.substack.com/about

Contact Emanuel directly: http://www.catalyticleadership.info/contact .

Here are some of our discussion points, with time markers if you want to skip ahead.

Deep Prayer: How much do movement catalysts actually pray? (15:12)

Assertiveness vs Agreeableness (20:45)

Influencing others’ beliefs (24:38)

How Gospel receptivity affects movements: If the soil is hard, will we ever see a movement? (31:26)

Busy-ness: One of the biggest movement blockers (33:46)

What about non-catalysts? (39:07)

How much time, on average, did it take for a catalyst to see a movement? (43:38)

Radical learning (44:39)

A final non-challenge (48:22)

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People on this episode: Guy Caskey, Rodger Guigou Shull, Philip Lynch, and Yours Truly

We mentioned: Events with Intent, BLT Communities

Key moments (so you can jump ahead if you don’t have the capacity to listen to the whole thing.)

* 9:37 All boats rise when people get connected.

* 20:46 “Serve the purpose of God.”

* 29:08 Learning from each other.

* 37:17 The danger of over-sending the work

* 41:53 Five key learnings (Check pheaney.substack.com for image).

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I really enjoyed the insights from reading this book, as well as chatting about it with the co-author, Dave Coles.

Find the book here: https://www.amazon.com/Living-Fire-Advancing-Kingdom-Challenging-ebook/dp/B0DTC2SQSX/

You can find more about Dave and what he has written here:

https://davecoles.freemin.org/

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I have been wanting to capture this story since I first heard it!

Give this podcast a listen to hear a great and inspiring story of how an Event with Intent can lead to multiplication.

You’ll also learn key insights about:

* diaspora work

* leadership development

* real-life multiplication

* finding the resources in the harvest

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“This is the biggest problem I have.” - Numerous missionaries on the subject of money and how it affects their work in the majority world.

The book is called To Whom Much Was Given: Case Studies on How Outside Money Affects Movement Practitioners

If you are having trouble navigating tricky money situations, this is an episode you should listen to, and more importantly, a book you should read.

https://www.movementsandmoney.org/

Find the book on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DZR8SC66

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I have interviewed Rodger several times on my podcast. You should most definitely give a listen to this episode and more importantly buy the book “Movements in America”.

For one week from the release date (April 28) the book is on sale on Amazon! https://www.amazon.com/Movements-America-Disciple-Movement-Spreading/dp/B0DNVN3YBP/

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Book on Amazon: https://a.co/d/iIoryhZ

Book in Podcast Form: https://open.spotify.com/show/58azIoSYujcz8kj99vV40x?si=b68915d0ab1f4919

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Is 24,000 students too small of a vision? Listen to this inspiring podcast with John Glasser.

Find out more and connect with Collision at https://www.collision.org/

“There are four churches for every public school in America.”

“Share the Gospel with as many people as it takes to find three disciples that multiply.”

John talked about Ross Ramsey a few times, here are some past conversations I have had with Ross:

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After reading this article by Emanuel Prinz about coaching, I had a bunch of questions. When I reached out to my friend Chuck, he was kind enough to pull together a call with himself, Jim and Bob and we had a great discussion about leading others well. This is Part Three of the conversation, you can find parts one and two here:

Here is the image from Chuck we are centering the conversation around.

If you enjoyed this conversation, check out these previous episodes with…

Chuck:

Jim:

Bob:

Thanks for listening!

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