Over 13 years, Jack Conte has built Patreon into a platform that has paid out more than $10 billion to creators. When Jack was 10 years old, the cool kids wore Nike and Adidas. Jack didn't. He wore Court Classics from Costco. Not because they were better, because the brand worship simply didn't make sense to him. That same voice, the one that says this isn't right, has run through his entire life. Today, it fuels his fight to build a platform that truly serves creators in an industry he says plainly is bad for humans. In this conversation, Darren and Jack explore the public stance Jack is taking against industry orthodoxy, the business he has built to reflect them, the inner work that has shaped how he leads, and the choices and trade offs he has made over 13 years.

Jack’s New York Times Opinion piece: “I’m Building an Algorithm That Doesn’t Rot Your Brain” text and video

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One of One is produced by Darren Gold, Emily Shaw, and Karen Welsh. Engineering by Aja Simpson.

Doug Conant stepped into the CEO role at the Campbell Soup Company in 2001, inheriting a toxic culture and a workforce that had lost faith in its leadership. Over the next decade, he engineered one of the most remarkable turnarounds in modern business history. But what makes Doug's story so compelling is not just what he accomplished, but the inner journey that made it possible. A lifelong introvert who, after being fired at age 32, learned the importance of living his authentic life story, and in so doing, built a philosophy grounded in deep listening, relentless self reflection, and an unshakable belief that to win in the marketplace, you must first win in the workplace. In this conversation, Darren and Doug explore the crucible moment that forged everything, what it really means to be tough minded on standards and tender-hearted with people, and what 50 years in the arena has taught Doug about the inner work that great leadership demands.

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One of One is produced by Darren Gold, Emily Shaw, and Karen Welsh. Engineering by Aja Simpson.

Mark Pincus is one of the most distinctive founders and product builders of the past three decades. He has written a remarkable new book called Life at the Speed of Play: Launch Products People Love! Most people assume that the willingness to stand for what you know to be true, even when the world is calling you crazy, is a quality common to all founders. In Darren’s experience, it isn't. It is rare. And Mark possesses it in a form he’s encountered in very few leaders. Mark is also a man doing the harder, quieter, inner work, asking what his soul actually needs, sitting in what he calls “the abyss,” examining the relationship between the conviction that built his companies and the integrity he is now bringing to the rest of his life. They talk about where that conviction came from, the moral contract Mark made with the people who built Zynga, and what it means at sixty to keep showing up in pursuit of something your soul still needs you to build.

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One of One is produced by Darren Gold, Emily Shaw, and Karen Welsh. Engineering by Aja Simpson.

Eric Ries is author of The Lean Startup, founder of the Long Term Stock Exchange, and now author of a terrific new book called Incorruptible: Why Good Companies Go Bad... and How Great Companies Stay Great. Eric's central argument is that even the most mission driven companies will, over time, succumb to what he calls financial gravity and lose their soul. The solution, how to become incorruptible, is to design structural protections early. The good news is that there are numerous examples hiding in plain sight. Eric and Darren talk about Sol Price and Costco, Novo Nordisk, Eric's work with Anthropic, and what he calls a spiritual holding company. And in the last stretch, they explore Eric's own inner journey, deeply personal and spiritual, that sits underneath all of it.

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One of One is produced by Darren Gold, Emily Shaw, and Karen Welsh. Engineering by Aja Simpson.

In nearly 15 years, Wade has grown Zapier from a side project at a Missouri hackathon into one of the most capital efficient software companies ever built. Essentially bootstrapped, Zapier now helps millions of customers automate their work by connecting the thousands of apps and tools that businesses use every day.

In this conversation, Darren seeks to understand Wade as a leader: a man who grew up in Jefferson City, Missouri with no entrepreneurial blueprint, who built something genuinely countercultural by trusting what he knew to be true before the evidence arrived. They talk about the “Code Red” Wade declared in March of 2023, the prescient decision to enact a company wide pause that has led to 100% AI adoption across the organization, what it takes to lead people through that kind of change, and the critical distinction between personal and institutional AI adoption.

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One of One is produced by Darren Gold, Emily Shaw, and Karen Welsh. Engineering by Aja Simpson.

In this episode of One of One, Darren speaks with Wendy McMahon, former CEO of CBS News & Stations.

Wendy McMahon is one of the most influential leaders in modern broadcast journalism. Over the course of her career, has led two of the most important institutions in American media, first as president of the ABC-owned television stations, and later as president and CEO of CBS News and Stations. She began her career in local television, working in branding, marketing, and storytelling across local stations around the country. From those early roles, she developed a deep conviction about the purpose of journalism, especially local journalism, as a public service and a cornerstone of civic life.

Throughout this conversation, Wendy reflects on the realities of leading institutions through transformation and uncertainty. She shares how leaders build momentum during change, why visible signals of leadership matter, and what it means to steward an organization whose mission extends far beyond the business itself.

She also introduces a powerful leadership idea that has shaped her thinking, the concept of mettle: the courage to stand in the storm when the stakes are highest and the world is watching. This is a conversation about purpose-driven leadership, navigating complexity, and the character required to lead when it matters most.

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One of One is produced by Darren Gold, Emily Shaw, and Karen Welsh. Engineering by Aja Simpson.

In this episode of One of One, Darren speaks with Frank Blake, former chairman and CEO of The Home Depot.

Frank stepped into the CEO role at Home Depot at a moment of profound uncertainty. It was early 2007, the housing market was beginning to unravel, and culturally, the company had lost touch with the values that once defined it. Frank had never aspired to be a CEO, and yet he was asked to lead one of the largest retailers in the world through one of the most turbulent periods in its history.

Over the next eight years, Frank restored Home Depot's customer first culture. He paused new store openings to reallocate capital toward improving the customer experience, and led with a deeply unconventional philosophy that the CEO belongs at the bottom of the organization, pushing purpose upward rather than letting authority cascade down. This episode explores how to lead in crisis, the truth revealed by capital allocation, the discipline of focus, and what it really means to serve an organization.

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One of One is produced by Darren Gold, Emily Shaw, and Karen Welsh. Engineering by Aja Simpson.

In this episode of One of One, Darren speaks with Jarek Kutylowski, founder and CEO of DeepL.

DeepL is a pioneering AI company serving hundreds of thousands of businesses around the world. Born in Poland and raised between Poland and Germany, Jarek experienced firsthand the challenges and beauty of bridging languages and cultures. Trained as a computer scientist, he saw early on how AI could transform communication, and he spent the past eight years building DeepL into a global leader in applied AI. DeepL achieved market dominance as a startup in a category that could easily have been owned by the large technology incumbents, and Jarek offers a masterclass in strategic counter positioning. He's evolved DeepL’s culture as it scaled, preserving its research roots while becoming a global commercial powerhouse. And now Jarek's leading DeepL into its second act, a courageous expansion beyond language translation into the broader world of agentic AI.

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One of One is produced by Darren Gold, Emily Shaw, Talia Deer, and Karen Welsh. Engineering by Aja Simpson.

In this episode, Darren speaks with Vishal Ghotge, CEO of Kiva.org.

Over the past 20 years, Kiva's platform has crowdfunded over $2.4 billion in interest free microloans to over 5 million entrepreneurs around the world, with a 96% repayment rate. In this episode we hear about Vishal's origins growing up in Mumbai, then coming to the US for his graduate education, holding product roles at Microsoft, Groupon, Payscale and Remitly, and ultimately paving the way for his first CEO role at Kiva. We touch on the impact of Vishal's deep meditation practice and commitment to self-awareness, his belief that growth at Kiva is a moral obligation, and the touching stories of entrepreneurs whose lives and communities have been transformed by the organization he leads.

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One of One is produced by Darren Gold, Emily Shaw, Talia Deer, and Karen Welsh. Engineering by Aja Simpson.

In this episode of One of One, Darren speaks with Jeff Cohen, CEO of Fruit of the Loom.

Jeff's career has been extraordinary. He spent over 20 years in senior roles at American Express, GE, and Home Depot, which he calls a masterclass in brand process and culture. Later, he ran multiple mid-cap businesses, including Larson-Juhl, a Berkshire Hathaway company, where Darren had the privilege of serving on his advisory board with UPS CEO Carol Tomé, and former Home Depot CEO Frank Blake. Today, as part of Berkshire Hathaway, he chairs six companies and is CEO of three of them: Fruit of the Loom, Larson-Juhl, and Star Furniture. This is a conversation about leadership, transformation and legacy told by someone who has quietly and consistently built extraordinary results while staying true to timeless principles.

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One of One is produced by Darren Gold, Emily Shaw, Talia Deer, and Karen Welsh. Engineering by Aja Simpson.