Scott and Josh chat about the new Snotling news, detail their online FUMBBL exploits, and welcome Ian McKinley to discuss the goings-on of the Militantes, the team at the centre of the Up and Under Tale. We also chat defensive setups for the rookies in an attempt to sort through the all-important starting condition of a game.

Ian McKinley's webseries can be found at upandundertale.com