In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Dan Labbe and Mary Kay Cabot discuss the Browns' quarterback situation, focusing on the

This Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the podcast also addresses preseason strategies under Kevin Stefanski and the dynamics of the interior defensive line, discussing the mix of young players and veterans on the inside.

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Browns rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders has had two speeding stops twice recently and it has made headlines. Are we making too big a deal of this or is this something that could impact the team's quarterback competition?

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk about why these recent incidents do matter and if there's anything to read into this as far as how far Sanders still needs to go before he's ready to be the face of an NFL franchise.

Are they concerned about what's happened recently or is it a blip on the radar? Does this play a role in the 4-man quarterback competition the Browns are currently holding?

They discuss the incident on the latest Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

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In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss key questions surrounding the Browns as they approach training camp. The conversation centers on Myles Garrett's leadership and expectations, the challenges faced by Dawand Jones in establishing himself at left tackle and the future of Andrew Berry’s draft picks and who, among them, is facing an important season in 2025.

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00:00 Introduction to the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast

01:08 Garrett's Leadership and Expectations

02:44 Garrett's Career Performance and Consistency

04:27 Postseason Performance and Legacy

06:05 The Importance of Leadership in the Team

13:49 Dawand Jones and Left Tackle Position

24:12 Andrew Berry's Draft Picks and Their Future

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Browns minicamp offered us a continued look at the Browns offense under head coach Kevin Stefanski and new offensive coordinator Tommy Rees and it's one of the things we're looking back on during Tuesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe took the opportunity to look at some of the non-quarterback takeaways from last week's mandatory minicamp and the offseason program as a whole.

What did we learn about the pass-catching group and why is it about more than just the receivers?

Who has the edge at edge rusher opposite Myles Garrett?

Did we get a look at what promises to be a more physical training camp?

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The Browns are in the midst of a 4-man quarterback battle, but even after they pick the winner, could they still have all four quarterbacks on the 53-man roster?

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe discuss that possibility on Monday's Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They talk about why it could happen and how it would look to keep all four on the roster.

Then they answer questions from Football Insider subscribers starting with the stability that head coach Kevin Stefanski and GM Andrew Berry offer, assistant coaches who stood out this spring and if there could be a package put in place for the rookie quarterbacks if they aren't starting.

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The Browns wrapped up three days of mandatory minicamp on Thursday and, as has been the case all spring, the four quarterbacks were the center of attention.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe reset the quarterback competition on Thursday after watching the final practice.

Is Kenny Pickett the frontrunner to start? What about Joe Flacco and his chance to win the job? Where does Dillon Gabriel fit in all of this? What was up with the team's approach with Shedeur Sanders?

Does the 2026 draft matter more than all of this?

They take a look at where things stand with attention turning towards training camp.

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The Browns are giving wide receiver Diontae Johnson a chance to revive his career after a 2024 season that saw the former Pro Bowler bounce around, unable to stick with a team.

Johnson spoke for the first time since signing with the Browns on Wednesday and Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe reacted to it on Wednesday's minicamp recap podcast.

They also talked about Shedeur Sanders getting some second-team reps ahead of Dillon Gabriel, something we haven't seen yet to this point, and how much it matters.

They wrap up the podcast by talking about Joe Flacco and the vibes around him as he's back in Cleveland and having fun.

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The Browns held their first practice of mandatory minicamp on Tuesday, the first of three days in a row before they take their break leading into training camp.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talked about what they saw and heard during practice and at the press conferences after when they heard from Myles Garrett, Shedeur Sanders and Dillon Gabriel.

They discuss what Garrett had to say about embracing a bigger leadership role and whether his lack of attendance at OTAs contradicts it.

They also get into the competition between Gabriel and Sanders and why the Browns are doing what they’re doing with reps even though it might not match exactly what we’re watching each quarterback do.

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Browns fans will have to watch Nick Chubb wear a different uniform this season as he is visiting and expected to sign with the Texans. Our Football Insider subscribers had plenty of questions about Chubb and his departure on Monday's Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe talk Chubb and if this could end up being a win-win for him and for the Browns.

They also talk about how different training camp will be this year for the Browns and why it matters before they turn their attention to the quarterback battle.

Why was there such a disconnect between the outside view of Shedeur Sanders and what NFL teams thought? What if the Browns start hot with one of the veterans? Will we see one of the young players?Mary Kay and Dan discuss it all on the eve of mandatory minicamp.

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Browns defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz believes Myles Garrett will have his best season ever -- and needs to after his massive contract extension over offseason.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start with expectations for Garrett on Thursday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast and what a best ever season looks like for a former Defensive Player of the Year.

They talk about Dawand Jones and the importance of this season for him and why it matters that he has focused on being in shape this offseason.

Then they address tempering expectations for Shedeur Sanders and being cautious about making big declarations about the fifth-round pick and discuss Aaron Rodgers finally landing in Pittsburgh.

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