Orange Business Radio

Episode 14: How to successfully transform an enterprise into a digital native enterprise.This episode is recorded at #Insights2025, the yearly analyst event of Orange Business. Our guests are Hriday Ravindranath, CDIO at Orange Business and Emma Buckland, Principal Analyst at STL partnersIn this episode we discuss what it takes to transform an enterprise from legacy to a digital company. Hriday describes how building a completely new IT stack will help organizations provide next-generation-products to their customers.

Emma explains what she see happening in the market and how this transformation not only is technical but also has a large impact on how people need to be educated and that it requires a fundamental change in the way we look at work.

Guests:

Hriday Ravindranath, Chief Digital and Information Officer at Orange Business

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Emma Buckland, Principal Analyst - Telco Cloud & Networks at STL Partners

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About the hosts:

Frank de Jong

Frank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration.

LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/⁠

Email: ⁠[email protected]⁠

Kerem Arsal

Kerem has spent nearly 20 years in telecoms and IT as an analyst, consultant, and strategist at multiple companies, including several years at British Telecom most recently.Now, he covers networks and edge computing at Omdia, a part of Informa plc. Kerem holds a PhD in Information Systems from Boston University, but he is also a failed rock singer, an ex-music journalist, and a defunct live sportscommentator.

LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/kerem-arsal-phd/⁠

Email: ⁠[email protected]⁠

Disclaimer:

This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast.Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.

Episode 13: Is 5G (still) a technology looking for a use case?

Welcome to Episode 13! This episode is recorded at #Insights2025, the yearly analyst event of Orange Business. Our guest is Pablo Tomasi, Principal Analyst - Private Networks at Omdia

5G has been around for a while and at the time of launch of this "new G", there were many promises around this next iteration of the mobile network. What has become reality sofar and what can we expect in the future? Pablo shares his views with us, and we share our views with him.

Guest:

Pablo Tomasi, Principal Analyst - Private Networks at Omdia

https://www.linkedin.com/in/pablo-tomasi-2a808b94/

More information:

Telco Drift Podcast

About the hosts:

Frank de Jong

Frank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration.

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/

Email: [email protected]

Kerem Arsal

Kerem has spent nearly 20 years in telecoms and IT as an analyst, consultant, and strategist at multiple companies, including several years at British Telecom most recently.Now, he covers networks and edge computing at Omdia, a part of Informa plc. Kerem holds a PhD in Information Systems from Boston University, but he is also a failed rock singer, an ex-music journalist, and a defunct live sportscommentator.

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kerem-arsal-phd/

Email: [email protected]

Disclaimer:

This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast.

Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.

Episode 12: AI: The struggle for digital inclusion

Welcome to Episode 12! This episode is recorded at #Insights2025, the yearly analyst event of Orange Business. Our guest is Chris Lewis, Telecoms Industry and Accessibility Analyst, Strategic Advisor, Public Speaker and Founder of The Great Telco Debate.

Chris is registered blind and is doing a lot of research on digital inclusion. We discuss the challenges for disabled people and also how modern tools help him perform his job and navigate through life (at least, when they are implemented correctly) 

Guest:

Chris Lewis, Telecoms Industry and Accessibility Analyst, Strategic Advisor, Public Speaker and Founder of The Great Telco Debate.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-lewis-3b01593/

More information:

Lewis Insight

Be My Eyes

Inclusively Telecom Podcast

About the hosts:

Frank de Jong

Frank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration. 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/

Email: [email protected]

Kerem Arsal

Kerem has spent nearly 20 years in telecoms and IT as an analyst, consultant, and strategist at multiple companies, including several years at British Telecom most recently.Now, he covers networks and edge computing at Omdia, a part of Informa plc. Kerem holds a PhD in Information Systems from Boston University, but he is also a failed rock singer, an ex-music journalist, and a defunct live sportscommentator. 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kerem-arsal-phd/

Email: [email protected]

Disclaimer:

This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast.

Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.

Episode 11: Transformation is all about the people

Guest:

Laurent Aufils: Chief People Officer at Orange Business

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About the hosts:

Frank de Jong

Frank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration. 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/

Email: [email protected]

Kerem Arsal

Kerem has spent nearly 20 years in telecoms and IT as an analyst, consultant, and strategist at multiple companies, including several years at British Telecom most recently.Now, he covers networks and edge computing at Omdia, a part of Informa plc. Kerem holds a PhD in Information Systems from Boston University, but he is also a failed rock singer, an ex-music journalist, and a defunct live sportscommentator. 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kerem-arsal-phd/

Email: [email protected]

Disclaimer:

This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast.

Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.

Episode 10: What happened to The Metaverse?

Only a few years ago, Metaverse was the biggest hype in the IT world. Facebook decided to change its name into Meta and invested 10 billion dollars in making the Metaverse happen. Many companies were convinced that this was going the be the only way they would communicate with their customers in a few years. Today, it has become really quiet around The Metaverse, which made us wonder: "What happened to The Metaverse?" We invited Nic Hill, Co-Founder & Chief Innovation Officer @ Sawhorse Productions, who explains that The Metaverse never really existed and gives us some pointers on where the developments in the are of User Generated Content will take us.

Guest:

Nic Hill: Co-Founder & Chief Innovation Officer @ Sawhorse

LinkedIn

More information:

Brands in Play Podcast, hosted by Nic Hill :

About the hosts:

Frank de Jong

Frank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration. 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/

Email: [email protected]

Kerem Arsal

Kerem has spent nearly 20 years in telecoms and IT as an analyst, consultant, and strategist at multiple companies, including several years at British Telecom most recently.Now, he covers networks and edge computing at Omdia, a part of Informa plc. Kerem holds a PhD in Information Systems from Boston University, but he is also a failed rock singer, an ex-music journalist, and a defunct live sportscommentator. 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kerem-arsal-phd/

Email: [email protected]

Disclaimer:

This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast.

Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.

Episode 9: Interesting stuff for 2025

About the hosts:

Frank de Jong

Frank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration. 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/

Email: [email protected]

Kerem Arsal

Kerem has spent nearly 20 years in telecoms and IT as an analyst, consultant, and strategist at multiple companies, including several years at British Telecom most recently.Now, he covers networks and edge computing at Omdia, a part of Informa plc. Kerem holds a PhD in Information Systems from Boston University, but he is also a failed rock singer, an ex-music journalist, and a defunct live sportscommentator. 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kerem-arsal-phd/

Email: [email protected]

Disclaimer:

This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast.

Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.

Episode 8: AI: from Greek fo Geek

Welcome to Episode 8! In "AI: From Greek to Geek" is the last one we recorded at #NetworkX 2024 in Paris. Our guest is Israel Madiedo, Innovation and Technology Director at izzi.

AI is a very hot topic this year and this is why we invited Israel (Izzy! Yes, he works at a company that has the same name and yes, that is a coincidence, but, how cool?!) to talk to us about AI. Izzy takes us to what he believes is the start of AI, which dates back to the ancient Greek. What follows is a journey across dreaming machines and the possibility of an AI winter. Not sure if that will happen, but an AI climate change seems inevitable. 

Guest:

Israel Madiedo - Innovation and Technology Director at izzi

Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/israel-madiedo-571476/

More information:

Yellow Medusa on Youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/@yellowmedusa

About the hosts:

Frank de Jong

Frank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration. 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/

Email: [email protected]

Kerem Arsal

Kerem has spent nearly 20 years in telecoms and IT as an analyst, consultant, and strategist at multiple companies, including several years at British Telecom most recently.Now, he covers networks and edge computing at Omdia, a part of Informa plc. Kerem holds a PhD in Information Systems from Boston University, but he is also a failed rock singer, an ex-music journalist, and a defunct live sportscommentator. 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kerem-arsal-phd/

Email: [email protected]

Disclaimer:

This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast.

Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.

Episode 7: Analysts do not like hypes

This episode was recorded at NetworkX 2024 in Paris. Our guest is Ronan de Renesse, VP Telecoms Research at Omdia

With him, we talk about the daily life of an analyst. How do they build and grow their expertise. What does it take to become and remain a credible advisor. Ronan also discusses the importance of independence and how feedback loops affect the quality of their work.

According to Ronan, everyone is a junior analyst. You should always question your beliefs and your data. This is the only way to get to better analysis

Guest:

Ronan de Renesse - VP Telecoms Research at Omdia

https://www.linkedin.com/in/derenesser/

About the hosts:

Frank de Jong

Frank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration. 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/

Email: [email protected]

Kerem Arsal

Kerem has spent nearly 20 years in telecoms and IT as an analyst, consultant, and strategist at multiple companies, including several years at British Telecom most recently.

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kerem-arsal-phd/

Email: [email protected]

Disclaimer:

This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast.

Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.

Episode 6: In Quantum, everything is complex

This episode was recorded at NetworkX 2024 in Paris. Our guest is Jean-Luc Vuillemin, Executive Vice President International Network, at Orange

Quantum technology is counter-intuitive for many people. Kerem is no exception to that. In this podcast we can hear how Jean-Luc explains Quantum computing and Quantum Internet to Kerem (and you) and how Kerem is becoming increasingly enthusiastic about it.

Jean-Luc covers use cases of Quantum Computing, the technological challenge of creating Qubits of a sufficient quality and the Quantum Threat of Store-Now-Decrypt-Later attacks.

He also explains the hybrid environment of Quantum and Non-Quantum technologies and the current and (near) future developments

Guest:

Jean-Luc Vuillemin - Executive Vice President International Network, Technology Advisor - Orange

Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jean-luc-vuillemin/

More information:

https://www.oezratty.net/wordpress/2024/understanding-quantum-technologies-2024/

About the hosts:

Frank de Jong

Frank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration. 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/

Email: [email protected]

Kerem Arsal

Kerem has spent nearly 20 years in telecoms and IT as an analyst, consultant, and strategist at multiple companies, including several years at British Telecom most recently.

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kerem-arsal-phd/

Email: [email protected]

Disclaimer:

This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast.

Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.

Episode 5: private 5G : Things Take Time

This episode was recorded at NetworkX 2024 in Paris. Our guest is Terje Jensen, Senior Vice President, Global Business Security Officer and Head of Network and Cloud technology strategy at Telenor.

Terje explains that it is important to focus on use cases instead of on technology and shares a number of use cases where (private) 5G really makes sense. A conversation about what problems we are actually trying to solve, fiddling with operational environments, and whether Private 5G will make anyone rich ;)

Guest:

Terje Jensen - Senior Vice President, Global Business Security Officer and Head of Network and Cloud technology strategy - Telenor

Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/terje-jensen-48b0939/

About the hosts:

Frank de Jong

Frank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration. 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/

Email: [email protected]

Kerem Arsal

Kerem has spent nearly 20 years in telecoms and IT as an analyst, consultant, and strategist at multiple companies, including several years at British Telecom most recently.

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kerem-arsal-phd/

Email: [email protected]

Disclaimer:

This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast.

Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.