Few concepts are more important to our society than resilience. Agnostic of domain, of nation, culture, and scale (as vital, indeed, to the individual life as to the planetary civilization), it would be impossible to overstate the pressure on us to understand it. If resilience is a core competency of our time, it would not be hyperbole to say that Dr. David Woods one of our most important thinkers. 

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Show Notes:

• three mile island (07:20)
• resilience engineering (12:30)
• the theory of graceful extensibility (12:30)
• The Risk Society by Ulrich Beck (13:10)
• how do you know? (14:00)
• scientific revolutions and paradigm shifts (15:00)
• retrenchment vs revitalization (16:00)
• the novelty inequality (28:00)
• Simon DeDeo on Origins (28:30)
• Mars Climate Orbiter report (31:00)
• 'faster, better, cheaper' pressure (32:00)
• Erik Hollnagle and Efficiency-Thoroughness Trade-Off principle (33:30)
• graceful extensibility (36:20)
• Douglas Hofstadter and strange loops (41:00)
• SNAFU catchers (42:00)
• dialectic between the individual and collective (44:00)
• Arnold Toynbee (45:00)
• multi-hazards and changing climate (52:20)
• John Doyle (54:00)
• Elinor Ostrom and reciprocity (54:20)
• Lightning Round (01:01:30):
  • Book: Gödel, Escher, Bach by Douglas Hofstadter
  • Passion: History and Atlas of Great Lakes Indian History by Helen Hornbeck Tanner
  • Heart sing: graceful extensibility and resilience engineering video series
  • Screwed up: building interfaces to the knowledge of resilience
• Find David online:
  • Ohio State University site

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Paul Smaldino is an explorer. That might seem like an odd way to describe a professor of cognitive science, but anyone who has glanced at his biography will recognize that he lives his life in exploration. His scholarship as his life are inspiration for keeping the lines of inquiry wide open and the things we can discover in doing so.

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Show Notes:

• The Dancing Wu Li Masters (08:00)
• The Quantum and the Lotus (12:30)
• Sagehood (15:00)
• J. Krishnamurti and David Bohm (17:00)
• Simone de Beauvoir (18:00)
• Science as an ongoing process of flourishing (18:15)
• Jeffrey Shank (26:00)
• Richard McElreath (27:40)
• "Cultural group selection plays an essential role in explaining human cooperation" Richardson et al. (28:00)
• "Social conformity despite individual preferences for distinctiveness" (35:00)
• "Maintaining transient diversity is a general principle for improving collective problem solving" Smaldino et al. (38:00)
• Philip Kitcher (46:00)
• explore-exploit tradeoff (46:10)
• replication crisis (49:00)
• The Knowledge Machine Strevens (50:30)
• "Echo chambers and epistemic bubbles" by C Thi Nguyen (53:00)
• "Interdisciplinarity can aid the spread of better methods between scientific communities" Smaldino and O'Connor (56:00)
• Wicked problems (56:30)
• C Thi Nguyen on Origins (57:00)
• Flourishing (58:00)
• Lightning round (01:05:00):
  • Book: Dune by Frank Herbert or Culture and the Evolutionary Process by Boyd and Richerson
  • Passion: film and music
  • Heart sing: two kids
• Find Paul online: Website

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I've been following John Paul Lederach's work for years, finding the words he uses inordinately relevant to all of the details and spaces of my life. John Paul is Professor of International Peacebuilding at the Joan B. Kroc Institute for International Peace Studies at Notre Dame. He has been a teacher to me across time and space and I believe the ideas he brings into the world are teachers we all need for the world we are walking into.

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Show Notes:

• Vocation (12:00)
• The Moral Imagination: The Art and Soul of Building Peaceby John Paul (12:30)
• Rumi poetry and the reed flute (19:00)
• Ongoingness (21:00)
• Peacebuilding (21:20)
• Pádraig Ó Tuama (31:00)
• wonder, wander, and wait (36:00)
• 'bearing witness to more of the complexity of the other' (37:30)
• collective empathy (40:00)
• Paulo Freire (44:00)
• critical yeast (46:00)
• Francisco Varela and "The Logic of Paradise" (54:00)
• Mind and Life Dialogues (54:00)
• Poetry (55:00)
• Eduardo Galeano (56:00)
• Donald Hall (01:03:00)
• Ai-jen Poo (01:11:00)
• Lightning Round (01:05:00)
  • Book: Tomorrow's Child by Rubem Alves 
  • Passion: poetry and physics
  • Heart sing: podcasting
  • Screwed up: the significance and challenge of patience
• Find John Paul online:
  • https://www.johnpaullederach.com/

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Flourishing is not a fixed state; it is an unfolding. In this time of rupture we need encounters with flourishing, to know it in our lived experiences individually and collectively. In this transformative event on December 12, 2024, Ryan McGranaghan, host of the Origins Podcast and founder of the Flourishing Salons, engaged in a moving conversation with four profound provocateurs and a wider community of artists, designers, engineers, scientists, educators, and contemplatives. The event was co-hosted by Flourishing Salons and the Cultural Programs of the National Academy of Sciences (CPNAS) DC Art and Science Evening Rendezvous (DASER).


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Show Notes:

• Video of the event (link) and event page (link)
• Opening remarks - JD Talasek, Cultural Programs of the National Academy of Sciences (03:30)
• DC Art Science Evening Rendezvous (03:30)
• Ryan McGranaghan framing (05:50)
• Flourishing Salons (06:00)
• Rainer Maria Rilke "Let This Darkness Be a Bell Tower" (07:30)
• Elizabeth Alexander (09:00)
• James Suzman (09:40)
• Danielle Allen (09:40)
• John Paul Lederach and critical yeast (12:00)
• Audrey Tang (12:50)
• David Whyte (13:10)
• "Knowledge Commons and the Future of Democracy" (14:00)
• Simone Weil (18:00)
• American Geophysical Union Fall Meeting (19:00)
• 'Flourishing Summits' (19:45)
• Susan Magsamen provocation (20:15)
• Julie Demuth provocation (34:00)
• Jennifer Wiseman provocation (45:00)
• Dan Jay provocation (56:15)
• Salon discussion (01:11:00)
• Find the guests online:
  • Susan Magsamen
  • Julie Demuth
  • Jennifer Wiseman
  • Dan Jay

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Natalie (Talia, as she goes by) Stroud has for years been studying the ways that our lives online show up in and shape our lives together. Her scholarship as her life are unexampled guides to the tumult, the challenges, and the opportunity presented by the advent and evolution of digital media.

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Show Notes:

• Federal Communications Committee "Information Needs of Communities" (08:10)
• Kathleen Hall Jamieson (08:50)
• Center for Media Engagement (11:00)
• Niche News (12:00)
• Governing the Commonsby Elinor Ostrom (17:00)
• Understanding Knowledge As a Commonsby Hess and Ostrom (17:30)
• Nexus: A Brief History of Information Networks from the Stone Age to AI by Yuval Noah Harari (17:40)
• 'crisis discipline' (e.g., Michael Soulé) (18:00)
• Danielle Allen on relationality (20:00)
• New_ Public (22:20)
• Civic Signals (23:50 & 32:00)
• Talia's research with Meta around 2020 presidential election (26:00)
• Eli Pariser (34:00)
• Great Asking episode of Origins (35:00)
• the four building blocks of a healthy or flourishing digital community (37:30)
• what does it mean to flourish? (39:00)
• Umberto Eco and lists (42:20)
• trust (43:00)
• Martha Nussbaum (46:20)
• public imagination (51:00)
• Healing the Heart of Democracyby Parker Palmer (55:20)
• Lightning Round (55:40)
  • Book: The Nature and Origins of Public Opinions by John Zaller 
  • Passion: business and marketing 'beach read' books
  • Heart Sing: election integrity
  • Screwed up: reducing polarization in ways practical and scalable
• Find Talia online:
  • UT Austin
• 'Five-Cut Fridays’ five-song music playlist series  
  • Talia’s playlist

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Simon DeDeo's inquiry takes on the most immense topics: astrophysics, history, epistemology, culture. He brings the precision of a physicist, the capability of a data scientist, and the sensibility of a philosopher to thinking about how we live our lives; and his polymathic life might be the example we need to make sense of the world we are walking into, one requiring an evolution to our way of studying and understanding.

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Show Notes:

• David Spergel (08:40)
• The Santa Fe Institute (14:10)
• The Village Vanguard in New York City (16:30)
• The Applicability of Mathematics as a Philosophical Problem by Mark Steiner (24:30)
• Murray Gell-Mann (25:00)
• "The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Mathematics in the Natural Sciences" by Eugene Wigner (26:00)
• "The civilizing process in London’s Old Bailey" Klingenstein et al (27:30)
• Michael Tomasello (31:50)
• Michael Palmer "Lies of the Poem" (34:50)
• Phenomenology of Spirit by Hegel (37:20)
• Gregory Bateson "Where is the mind?" (40:20)
• The CANDOR corpus (42:50)
• Judith Donath on Origins (48:10)
• Marshall McLuhan (49:00)
• Science of Science (49:10)
• "New and atypical combinations: An assessment of novelty and interdisciplinarity" (49:10)
• Helen Vendler (51:20)
• The Anxiety of Influenceby Harold Bloom (53:00)
• C Thi Nguyen on Origins (57:00)
• The Scientific Landscape of Human Flourishing (58:00)
• eudaimonia (58:30)
• thumos (59:00)
• Lightning Round (01:04:50)
  • Book: American Pastoral by Philip Roth 
  • Passion: exercise
  • Heart sing: narrative
  • Screwed up: teaching and mentoring
• Find Simon online:
  • Website

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Lindy Elkins-Tanton is one of the world's foremost scientists. Couple that with an unprecedented understanding of how teams work and a sense of care that is exceedingly rare in our world and you recognize her for what she is: altogether unexampled. Her's is a story of exploration, of universe, of planet, of society, and of self. 

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Show Notes:

• Her memoir: A Portrait of the Scientist as a Young Woman (04:40)
• A Feeling for the Organism by Fox Keller (11:40)
• Tronto and Fisher on an ethics of care (14:40)
• ongoingness and Danielle Allen (15:30)
• The Great Askers (Episode 1 on Origins and an essay) (23:00)
• Rubric for assessing the excellence of questions (24:15)
• Psyche mission (26:00)
• The Science of Team Science (26:30)
• The Interplanetary Initiative at Arizona State (44:00)
• Worldbuilding and NK Jemisin (47:00)
• Dawnby Octavia Butler (47:20)
• Lightning Round (49:20)
  • Book: The Captive Mindby Czesław Miłosz
  • Passion: living and working with animals
  • Heart sing: photographing and mosaicking 
  • Screwed up: early relationships
• Find Lindy online:
  • https://lindyelkinstanton.com/
• 'Five-Cut Fridays’ five-song music playlist series  
  • Lindy’s playlist

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It would feel wrong to place labels on Jane Hirshfield. Language would fail to reach there, ironic for someone who has devoted their life to the practice of poetry and the practice of Zen Buddhism. Jane is a modern master, change-maker, and wise and winsome voice.

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Show Notes:

• The Ritual Process by Victor Turner (09:30)
• nonattachment (14:00)
• Poem: "My Skeleton" (21:30)
• Poem: "For What Binds Us" (28:20, read 33:00)
• Poets for Science (29:10; 56:30)
• Silent Spring by Rachel Carson (31:00)
• Poem: "Let Them Not Say" (32:10)
• Gary Snyder (32:00)
• Palimpsest (36:20)
• Poem: "My Hunger" (42:20)
• Poem: "I Sat in the Sun" (45:30)
• Man's Search for Meaningby Victor Frankl (48:00)
• Neti Neti (49:00)
• Poem: "Possibility: An Assay" (50:30)
• Stuart Kauffman's theory of adjacent possible (55:30)
• The 'assay' form of poetry (56:30)
• Poets for Science in New York Times (57:00)
• Poem: "On the Fifth Day" (58:40)
• March for Science (59:00)
• Wick Poetry Center and David Hassler on Origins (01:01:00)
• Nobel Science Summit (01:01:00)
• Videos of poets in poets for science mentioned (01:02:00)
• Brian Eno (01:06:30)
• Lightning Round (01:06:00):
  • book: The Invention of Nature by Andrea Wulf 
  • passion: being an embodied person outside of words; natural horsemanship
  • heart sing: conversations
  • screwed up: Poem: "My Failure"
• Astonishing the Gods by Ben Okri (01:12:00)
• Find Jane online:
  • The Asking: New & Selected Poems 

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Agustín Fuentes reads a multi-million year history of our world, a student of its myriad lessons that often subvert unquestioned modern narratives and the problematic ways we've arrived at them. His is an anthropological, ecological, refreshingly unalloyed sensibility, an uncommon concoction whose life of scholarship and insight illuminate what we all might need to cultivate for the world we are walking into. 

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Show Notes:

• Positionality (04:20)
• Interest in the transcendent (06:15)
• Willingness to contend with complexity (11:30)
• Awe and beautify of biology and anthropology (14:20)
• Eric Wolf '[anthropology is] the most scientific of humanities, the most humanistic of sciences' (16:20)
• Phyllis Dolhinow (18:00)
• Karl Popper and falsifiability (22:00)
• Margaret Lock and local biologies (24:00)
• Dialectic (24:30)
• Curriculum for the future (25:00)
• Myth of 'evolution as progress' (26:00)
• Teju Cole (33:00)
• Complexity: connecting the micro and macro (37:00)
• Approach to teaching and sharing knowledge (40:00)
• Cultural moment with the idea that we need to hold two truths at once (42:30)
• 'healing comes in the return' (46:40)
• Jeff Tweedy on writing (49:00)
• Lightning Round (50:00)
  • Book: The Little Prince by Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
  • Passion: Travel, being on planes
  • Heart sing: Book he's writing (and his prior book Race, Monogamy, and Other Lies They Told You) 
  • Screwed up: a couple of relationships and guitar
• Find Agustín online:
  • Website
  • Princeton
• 'Five-Cut Fridays’ five-song music playlist series  
  • Agustín’s playlist

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Albert-László Barabási thinks in networks and his scholarship, as his life, is embodiment of the explorative, imaginative, and generative nature of networks. It would be difficult to imagine a person better suited to steward us through the innate and seemingly universal tendency of things to connect to each other and all of its implications.

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Show Notes:

• Preferential attachment (10:00)
• What he tells his students (13:30)
• Breakthroughs (14:00)
• 'Shelf Time' (14:30)
• The Science of Science (19:00)
• Bridging (network science) (19:00)
• His first and second papers in network science (22:00)
• Danielle Allen (28:30)
• David Lazer (https://lazerlab.net/home) 'network based decision making' (31:00)
• Hélène Landemore epistemic democracy (32:00)
• Northeastern University Network Science Institute (35:30)
• Center for Complex Network Research (36:00)
• Alessandro Vespignani (37:00)
• János Kertész (38:00)
• Jane Hirshfield "Let Them Not Say" (42:00)
• Joan Didion "I write entirely to find out what I’m thinking, what I’m looking at, what I see and what it means." (44:30)
• His writing practice (44:30)
• His routines (45:00)
• Commonplace book (53:00)
• Robert K Merton "Singletons and Multiples in Scientific Discovery" (56:30)
• What does it mean to flourish? (59:00)
• Lightning Round (01:03:30):
  • Book: Isaac Asimov The Foundation Trilogy
  • Passion: art (Hidden Patterns exhibition; 150 years of Nature)
  • Heart sing: Network medicine
  • Screwed up: Failing to invest in Google
• Find László online:
  • https://barabasi.com/
• 'Five-Cut Fridays’ five-song music playlist series  
  • László’s playlist

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